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Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? #4088624 05/05/16 03:10 PM
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Which one?

I have always used the M1. Before I got on here, I was one of those guys that wouldn't touch a Fram filter. Obviously Ultras are very respected on here.
Ultra is cheaper by a few dollars.

It will be going on a 2015 Polaris RZR 900. Oil and filter gets changed every spring. Usually about 1,000 miles on OCI. Oil will be M1 15-50, two quart capacity. Warm weather use mainly. Sits in heated garage in winter if I needed to use it.

What say you? They about the same quality wise?
Thanks!

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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088633 05/05/16 03:20 PM
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I'd say they are both very good quality filters, but the XG is a bit more efficient than the M1. XG is also full synthetic and might flow a bit better since the M1 is a blend media - 15W-50 is pretty thick oil. Both would do a fine job, and both over kill for the OCI unless you're focusing mainly on efficiency and quality.

Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088634 05/05/16 03:21 PM
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I used to use M1 now I use Ultras.


Currently using, 8100 X-clean EFE 5W-30, M1 5W-20 and Castrol Edge 0W-20 Gold B.
Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088637 05/05/16 03:26 PM
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I would stay with the M1 if you dont have a reason to change. That would be the oil I use and you could probably go more than one season on it.

The m1-110 is pretty small I use it on one of my bikes. If you have more room a m1-104,105 or 210 will fit and also increase system capacity a good amount but that's just my way.

Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088638 05/05/16 03:28 PM
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Both filters are high quality. Get whichever is the better price or on sale.

BTW, the M1 is also made by Fram smile

Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088648 05/05/16 03:41 PM
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The XG is a good filter, and cheaper. I had a UOA done after using an XG for 15000 miles, and there were no signs of problems with filtration. Less than $8 for the Fram


http://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=xg7317


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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088661 05/05/16 03:57 PM
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you will never notice any difference in a million miles. The most important filter is the air filter.


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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088674 05/05/16 04:10 PM
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Run the ultra for 2 years


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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088784 05/05/16 05:49 PM
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Thanks guys!
Ultra it is then. Yeah the OCI might be a little early for what I'm using, but it's only once a year and it's about $20.
Cheap piece of mind.

I'm using a R2C air filter this year. Used OEM last year. R2C makes no claims about hp, just claims it's a better filter efficiency filter. Non oiled reusable media. Blow it out from inside with 50-70 psi air, or vacuum outside.

I'll make a post in air filter section.

Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088792 05/05/16 05:55 PM
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XG for sure. M1 is seriously over-priced and under-tech for what it is- a synthetic blend media with no wire backing- compared to the XG which is a dual -layer synthetic media WITH wire backing.


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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Brybo86] #4088816 05/05/16 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Run the ultra for 2 years

+1....agree. The Fram Ultra and M-1 are premium, top-grade filters....and can be used for much longer periods (might even go 3 or 4 years).

If you planned OCI (for filter) is just one year....using the above filters is just wasteful money wise. The Fram Tough Guard (a mid-tier filter),would be a better choice, and at about half the price.


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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088829 05/05/16 06:16 PM
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A SuperTech 9688 has your name written on it. Buy a six pack with the money saved. I am in the crowd that is not going to leave a filter on for years.


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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088981 05/05/16 08:50 PM
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The Fram is the better of the two. It has better filtration, more capacity, superior media AND is the less expensive of the two.


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Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: Srt20] #4088986 05/05/16 08:55 PM
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Here are the internal parts and materials of the XG6607 which is a short version of XG7317.

If only there was some flow rate data for M1-110 and Fram XG7317, that would make it easier to decide.





Re: Mobil M1-110 or Fram Ultra XG7317 ? [Re: davison0976] #4089063 05/05/16 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: davison0976
If only there was some flow rate data for M1-110 and Fram XG7317, that would make it easier to decide.


They will both flow way more than the engine can put out. But since the XG is full synthetic it probably flows a hair better than the M1 under the same conditions.

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