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Latest Lawnmower change #4059941
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Another condensed learning.

Mixing is good
When you change, some is left behind and you mix, so mixing is good.
Used oil protects better than new.

So I took some used oil from the Navara, ran it through a TP filter (1 cup per week gravity flow is pretty well filtered).

2 parts used Edge 5W30, preconditioned through use and filtered
3 parts M1 5W50
4 parts Penrite small engine SAE 30.

40 minutes of grass mowing and no ill effects apparent.

Must be good.


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Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059952
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I would totally mix different brands/weights for my tractor, but using used oil? why? How does used oil protect better than new?


2016 Nissan Frontier Pro4x
2017 VW GTI sport
1995 Mustang GTS
Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059962
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I would not used oil in anything. How much oil does this mower take? What are you saving $2.00?


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2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
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Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059966
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So 'preconditioned' is the new word for used oil? crackmeup

Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059968
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You are forgetting, they are all compatible, and having oil left in the sump at OCI time proves it.

40 minutes run time on the brew to date, and nothing bad has happened, clearly there's no problem with the brew.

Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059971
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Another condensed learning.

Mixing is good
When you change, some is left behind and you mix, so mixing is good.
Used oil protects better than new.

So I took some used oil from the Navara, ran it through a TP filter (1 cup per week gravity flow is pretty well filtered).

2 parts used Edge 5W30, preconditioned through use and filtered
3 parts M1 5W50
4 parts Penrite small engine SAE 30.

40 minutes of grass mowing and no ill effects apparent.

Must be good.


^ OK...you have my attention! ^ Were you expecting ill effects after 40 minutes with this home brew?

Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4059973
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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
So 'preconditioned' is the new word for used oil? crackmeup


Yeah, I'm thinking of marketing it...why go to all that trouble of having to break down the ZDDP and MoDTC during that "high wear" period at the front of an oil change when you can add a quart of pre-conditioned oil with the new fill and get all the benefits ?

seriously, 40 minutes in and I've seen nothing detrimental.

Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: gman2304] #4059978
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Originally Posted By: gman2304

^ OK...you have my attention! ^ Were you expecting ill effects after 40 minutes with this home brew?


I'll probably have another half hour next weekend, and pretty sure that nothing bad will happen then either.

Note that my absence of failure is not prompting me to recommend any of the above practices to anyone...just nothing bad has happened.

Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059979
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Originally Posted By: Shannow
Used oil protects better than new.

You sure about that?

Originally Posted By: Shannow
40 minutes of grass mowing and no ill effects apparent.

You gave it 40 whole minutes, huh? Wow, such a low bar to hit. How did everything measure out when you completely disassembled it and measured for wear?

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Must be good.

Must be!

Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059985
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Bottom Feeder,
you need to keep up with the memes.

As to measuring up, I realised that my components only added up to 9, when there were 10 parts.

The missing part was additives...a little less well measured, but in descending order Rislone, Nulon E20, and Liquimoly MoS2.

I'm even more convinced in the "blend" now.

All that, and nothing bad happened...onto a winner methinks.

Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059986
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I only use "hardly used" oil in my 8 year old push mower. Why spend more money.


2002 F-150 4.6L 150k
2009 Camry 3.5L 65k
Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: Shannow] #4059991
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How used was each constituent of the frankenbrew to begin with? Could be, that skipping the TP filtration and simply dumping in the used oil would have shown exactly the same results...especially after only 40 min.


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Edge 0W-40 + FU filter (64,774 miles)
'15 Legacy FB25 (OEM Stage, uh, neg. 7?)
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Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: JW_Ford] #4059993
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Originally Posted By: JW_Ford
I only use "hardly used" oil in my 8 year old push mower. Why spend more money.


how much oil does the push mower hold? 12oz? buying 1 quart would be good for what, at least 2 oil changes? I've never had a mower die from not changing the oil enough, that's for sure, but its pretty cheap insurance to just use new stuff. Even my tractor only takes 2 quarts, supposed to be changed every 100 hours. that's like $10 a year in oil.


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Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: JW_Ford] #4059994
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Originally Posted By: JW_Ford
I only use "hardly used" oil in my 8 year old push mower. Why spend more money.


+1

I've used some barely used 5w-30 Havoline in my push mower as well and it seems to work just fine


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2003 Buick Century 3.1L 196k Maxlife 5W-30 with Fram TG3387A
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Re: Latest Lawnmower change [Re: HemiHawk] #4059998
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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
Originally Posted By: JW_Ford
I only use "hardly used" oil in my 8 year old push mower. Why spend more money.


how much oil does the push mower hold? 12oz? buying 1 quart would be good for what, at least 2 oil changes? I've never had a mower die from not changing the oil enough, that's for sure, but its pretty cheap insurance to just use new stuff. Even my tractor only takes 2 quarts, supposed to be changed every 100 hours. that's like $10 a year in oil.


Its a beat up mower, my riding mower I take care of as I should.


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