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DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 #4028917 03/04/16 11:24 AM
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Hi I'm new to this forum. I see that Mobil is selling Delvac 1 and Turbo Diesel Synthetic Truck oil both in 5W-40. Does anyone here know the difference? Mobil's site does not make it clear to me. Any insights into this are appreciated.
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Re: DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 [Re: LPDandrea] #4029285 03/04/16 07:30 PM
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Delvac 1 ESP 5w40 is the flagship product, meeting a variety of medium and heavy duty manufacturer specs. TDT is the 'lesser cousin' and meets a variety of medium duty specs.

From the data sheets, flashpoint is the biggest difference I can see. I suspect TDT is a group 3 oil while D1 ESP is a group 5 and 5 oil.

D1 ESP is the better oil, but depending on the application, it won't matter.


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Re: DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 [Re: LPDandrea] #4033595 03/09/16 04:29 PM
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Did this answer your question LPDandrea?


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TDT is a group III? That should make Chevron happy.

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Originally Posted By: userfriendly
TDT is a group III? That should make Chevron happy.


Delo competes with Delvac. Chevron's 15w40 (Group II+) and 5w40 (Group III or III+) are both excellent oils.


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Re: DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 [Re: BobFout] #4036877 03/13/16 12:23 AM
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Yes, Chevron is rather proud of their Group III stuff, and justifiably so.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 [Re: LPDandrea] #4037885 03/14/16 12:51 AM
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I guess you being in Canada, you are a Pet-Can group III Duron guy.

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I actually haven't tried it yet. wink Delvac 1 is hard to beat by price or specification.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 [Re: LPDandrea] #4038849 03/15/16 02:31 AM
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Hard to beat doesn't mean can't be beat.
If the synthetic component of TDT is group III, then Mobil is saying; "If you can't beat them, join them" eh?

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Re: DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 [Re: userfriendly] #4038868 03/15/16 03:02 AM
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Well, the Delvac 1 ESP is Group IV and some V; TDT diverged from Delvac 1 when CJ-4 came out. Of course, up here, as you're well aware, TDT is essentially unaffordable. Walmart and CT might as well just slap a $1000 price tag on it.

With diesel specifications, the only oil I've seen with more specifications met and certifications and formal builder approvals obtained than Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40 is Delvac 1 LE 5w-30. Castrol's competing version to the 5w-30 isn't dual rated. Shell and Petro-Canada haven't even started in the E6 market in North America.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: DELVAC 1 ESP vs. Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 [Re: LPDandrea] #4039558 03/15/16 06:10 PM
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Go to either of their web sites, pick a country, pick a language and pick a product. RDS and Suncor both contract to private labels and are licensed to supply package and deliver fuel and lubricants to commercial marine, air and land customers.

TDT is what it is. A CJ-4 5w40. I don't think anyone with a fleet class 8 trucks is going to pick up 10 one gallon jugs of it at a time at WM for a single oil change on one truck.

I would be interested in the retail numbers of CT or WM sales of TDT. Why should they lower the price, nobody is buying drums of it?

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No, no commercial customer is likely to buy TDT at a Canadian Walmart, that's for sure. In the States, with U.S. pricing, it's certainly possible, but not here.

What perplexes me is that while normal M1 will go on sale, be it single litres or the jugs, I cannot recall a single sale on TDT at our Walmarts or Canadian Tire. I can't see them moving a lot of it.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Originally Posted By: Garak
No, no commercial customer is likely to buy TDT at a Canadian Walmart, that's for sure. In the States, with U.S. pricing, it's certainly possible, but not here. What perplexes me is that while normal M1 will go on sale, be it single litres or the jugs, I cannot recall a single sale on TDT at our Walmarts or Canadian Tire. I can't see them moving a lot of it.
As a non-commercial customer, I would not buy it either. Plenty of other choices which are just as good for much cheaper. In fact, had it not been for the black Friday specials at Pepboys on Delvac 1 ESP, I would not have any Mobil HDEOs in my stash. Mobil is much more expensive than other brands (at least in the Houston area).


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Here, they do well, except in stores. wink I don't think Imperial oil will sell me TDT, and as we've compared in the past, I often spend less on Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40 than would an American, which is extremely odd, given what we normally pay. Imperial Oil sells their HDEOs at decent prices. I suppose if they want to sell any, long haul truckers won't put up with the nonsense and will get service done elsewhere, including the States. Farmers won't tolerate it, either. Shell and Petro-Canada do fairly well on HDEO pricing, but Imperial Oil really gives decent value.

I still wonder how much TDT that Walmart Canada or CT really move.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Hi. Also new to the forum (been lurking forever) and am interested in the op's question - what's the difference between Delvac and TDT?

I have a 2015 6.7 Powerstroke and just changed to TDT from Motorcraft 10/30 semi syn (second oil change). TDT is not readily available here but Delvac is. Can I use either oil or is one better for my engine?

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