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Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA #4028326
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All right folks, I finally got the VOA for the new M1 0W40 FS. Honestly, beside the thinner viscosity and maybe a tad more boron/phosphorus, it's the same oil, but what do I know.

Here's the link to the older version:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3001485/1




Last edited by Leonardo629; 03/03/16 06:04 PM.

2013 E92 M3 --> M1 0W40 FS
Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028340
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Looks good. Thanks for providing the VOA.

Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028356
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Good dose of Boron. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=729116

Edge EP is using 320 ppm of boron as well.

Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028379
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LSPI prone, high calcium.

Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028401
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Interesting - it is just 'barely' a 40-weight...just like Edge 0W-40, which is about 12.8 cst.

These new 0W-40's might as well be 0W-30's...add a bit of fuel, or a bit of shear, and you are a 30-weight.

This intrigued the late Gary Allan a lot...why market it as a 0W-40, when in reality it is a 30-weight.

Beyond that, love the add-pack and the higher shot of Boron.


2010 Kia Soul 2U - 2.0L I-4, auto; 141k miles.
M1 EP 10W-30; OEM Kia filter.
2009 Pontiac G5 - 2.2 I-4, auto, 121k miles.
Oil/filter TBD
Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028408
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Very nice


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Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028421
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Thanks Leonardo629!


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Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028432
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Thank you.


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'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Quattro Pete] #4028438
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Nice to see this. Thanks for posting it. Add pack was beefed up, though with lowered TBN and operating temp viscosity.

Would this be considered an improvement over the old stuff? I'll probably buy a jug this year using the Mobil 1 rebate. First, it has to show up in the stores.


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Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: 69GTX] #4028457
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The TBN difference is probably due to Blackstone using the newer method since the last VOA


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Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028465
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Total Base Number (ASTM D2896) 12.6 per technical details.


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Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028518
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Curious if they're also using other additives that Blackstone isn't testing for.


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Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028537
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Only an UOA will tell us if the GTL basestock is beter at staying in grade, someone hurry and drive.


2013 E92 M3 --> M1 0W40 FS
Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4028559
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Originally Posted By: Leonardo629
Only an UOA will tell us if the GTL basestock is beter at staying in grade, someone hurry and drive.

It is so close to a 30 grade when fresh, it is unlikely that it will "stay in grade." smile


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
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'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: Mobil 1 M1 0W-40 "FS" SN VOA [Re: Leonardo629] #4029469
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Yep movable to a lower grade, now if it was also partially made of mPAO - instead of partial decene, would stay in grade even with most part from the groupIII+ ...

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