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New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 #4015494
02/19/16 01:19 PM
02/19/16 01:19 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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http://pds.mobil.com/Canada-English/Lubes/PDS/IOCAENPVLMOMobil_1_FS_0W-40.aspx

Dated February, 2016. Of note, still no LL-01 approval. Looks quite different from the outgoing 0w-40:

Approvals:
- API SN, ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4
- MB 229.3, 229.5, VW 502 00/505 00, Porsche A40

Specs:
@ 40C .......................................................................70.8
@ 100C......................................................................12.9
Viscosity Index..............................................................186
MRV at -40C, cP (ASTM D4684) .........................................21600
HTHS Viscosity, mPas @ 150C, (ASTM D4683).......................3.6
Total Base Number (ASTM D2896).......................................12.6
Sulfated Ash, wt% (ASTM D874)..........................................1.34
Phosphorous, wt% (ASTM D4981).........................................0.1
Flash Point, C (ASTM D92)...............................................226
Density @15C, g/ml (ASTM D4052).....................................0.8456


Versus the old M1 0w-40:

Approvals:
- API SN, ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4
- MB 229.3, 229.5, LL-01, VW 502 00/505 00, Porsche A40, Nissan GT-R

Specs:
@ 40C .......................................................................75
@ 100C......................................................................13.5
Viscosity Index..............................................................185
MRV at -40C, cP (ASTM D4684) .........................................31000
HTHS Viscosity, mPas @ 150C, (ASTM D4683).......................3.8
Total Base Number (ASTM D2896).......................................11.8
Sulfated Ash, wt% (ASTM D874)..........................................1.3
Phosphorous, wt% (ASTM D4981).........................................0.1
Flash Point, C (ASTM D92)...............................................230
Density @15C, g/ml (ASTM D4052).....................................0.85




Looks like the new product is a fair bit lighter with a significant reduction in MRV viscosity.


2018 RAM 1500 Big Horn EcoDiesel
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: OVERKILL] #4015497
02/19/16 01:23 PM
02/19/16 01:23 PM
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Great Lakes
Quattro Pete Offline
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Yeah, so this new FS stuff is what we already have here at Walmart in 5qt jugs.

Nobody answered my question from the previous thread: what does "FS" stand for? smile


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (FF)
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: OVERKILL] #4015508
02/19/16 01:29 PM
02/19/16 01:29 PM
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Chicago, IL
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About 5-7% thinner than before, but still very stout I'm sure. Nice high TBN!

FS is probably something dumb like "film strength" or "full synthetic".


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Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: dparm] #4015510
02/19/16 01:31 PM
02/19/16 01:31 PM
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Quattro Pete Offline
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Originally Posted By: dparm
FS is probably something dumb like "film strength" or "full synthetic".

"full synthetic"? As opposed to it not being a full synthetic before? heh...


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (FF)
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: OVERKILL] #4015516
02/19/16 01:36 PM
02/19/16 01:36 PM
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Idaho
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Then we have to define the meaning of synthetic,


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2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: Quattro Pete] #4015518
02/19/16 01:37 PM
02/19/16 01:37 PM
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Virginia
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Virginia
Free Stuff and or the other bad word for stuff or Free Sheets or For Sure smile

Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: Quattro Pete] #4015522
02/19/16 01:38 PM
02/19/16 01:38 PM
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Rijeka, EU
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Yeah, so this new FS stuff is what we already have here at Walmart in 5qt jugs.

Nobody answered my question from the previous thread: what does "FS" stand for? smile



Full -SAPS?


02 Nissan Terrano 2.7.TDi Motul 15w40
06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet SHU 5w40
07 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 CDTI 150 MST 5w40
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: OVERKILL] #4015524
02/19/16 01:39 PM
02/19/16 01:39 PM
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Appleton, WI
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Fo shizzle?


2013 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite - Citgo Syngard 0W-20 / Carquest Blue 68k miles
2005 Audi allroad - Valvoline 5W-40 MST / Carquest Blue 218k miles
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: Quattro Pete] #4015535
02/19/16 01:44 PM
02/19/16 01:44 PM
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Chicago, IL
dparm Offline
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: dparm
FS is probably something dumb like "film strength" or "full synthetic".

"full synthetic"? As opposed to it not being a full synthetic before? heh...


Exactly, it's likely just some marketing [censored] they decided to add for differentiation.


2017 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: chrisri] #4015538
02/19/16 01:46 PM
02/19/16 01:46 PM
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Great Lakes
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Originally Posted By: chrisri
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Yeah, so this new FS stuff is what we already have here at Walmart in 5qt jugs.

Nobody answered my question from the previous thread: what does "FS" stand for? smile



Full -SAPS?

Ooooh, I like this one.


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (FF)
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: Quattro Pete] #4015552
02/19/16 02:01 PM
02/19/16 02:01 PM
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Colorado Springs
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Fuel Saving? With thinner formula makes sense.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: OVERKILL] #4015582
02/19/16 02:31 PM
02/19/16 02:31 PM
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USA
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Could FS be for PAO-based Class 4 synthetic vs. Class 3 like other M1 oils?

Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: DrRoughneck] #4015587
02/19/16 02:35 PM
02/19/16 02:35 PM
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Upper Midwest
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Originally Posted By: DrRoughneck
Could FS be for PAO-based Class 4 synthetic vs. Class 3 like other M1 oils?


I assume you mean "group" instead of class.

Where did you see information on the composition of Mobil 1?


1994 BMW 530i, 228K
1996 Honda Accord, 263K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 400K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 271K
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: OVERKILL] #4015589
02/19/16 02:37 PM
02/19/16 02:37 PM
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Kendall, FL
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Approvals can be so inconsistent. So if I'm a BMW owner that's been using this (Mobil1 0W-40) for years and now go to the dealership with an issue. They check my receipts which say Mobil1 0W-40, and then say..."sorry, according to the Mobil1 website this oil doesn't meet LL01 etc.? Can you prove you used the version that did...sir?"

WTH!


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD: Mobil Super Synthetic 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: New Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 [Re: wemay] #4015604
02/19/16 02:55 PM
02/19/16 02:55 PM
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Connecticut
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An even weaker 40 grade. That works for me as I would use it in vehicles specifying 30 grade. This M1 now moves a big step closer to the PU 0w-40 SRT which is also in the 12's on 100c deg on VOA's.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
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