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Royal Purple Filter Cut Open #3988913
01/24/16 06:46 PM
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Colorado
JerryBob Offline OP
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I ran this for the prescribed 5k OCI on my relatively new '15 Tacoma (15k miles). I got a great deal (long story) on two of these filters, and I replaced it with the 2nd one.

The filter sits upside-down on the top of the engine. The Tacoma's 1st two OCIs were with a Mobil-1 filter, and each time I removed the used filter, they seemed dry and empty.

However, when I removed the RP yesterday, the oil came gushing out. Even more came gushing out when I cut it open. The section of the faceplate metal behind the ADBV was completely dry, as if it had never come in contact with oil (meaning it sealed well).

I used to think highly of the Mobil-1s but they've disappointed me, as far as the ADBVs are concerned.

I might try Fram and Wix to see how their ADBVs perform. Or I may just stick with RP, and starting running it for 2 OCIs, since it easily seems capable.


Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3988930
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I now only run RP 20-400 0n my 06 4.0l tacoma as it is the best I have run for this app for the reasons you describe FU will be no better RP ADBV is the best of all of the bunch Wix was the worst you will pull off a empty can.

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3988942
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Appears the RP filter performed very well. I am going to be purchasing a 4Runner with the same motor. I was thinking about purchasing 10 of the Toyota OEM filter. Has anyone had experience with this filter? If the feedback is poor, I will purchase multiple RP filters. Tha ,s in advance for the feedback.


Garage:
2016 Toyota 4Runner 4.0L - M1 EP 0W20 w/OEM Filter (25K miles)
2013 Acura TL 3.5L - Mobil 1 EP 0W20 w/OEM Filter (55K miles)

Both soon to use my M1 AP 5W20 stash...
Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3988950
01/24/16 07:15 PM
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upstate NY mohawk valley
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I have been happy with rp filters... I get them online with AAP discounts...


2000 F-150 Harley edition- this is for fun !
2008 Chevy Aveo5- real world car
Royal Purple fan
Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: Georgiey22] #3988954
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JerryBob Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Georgiey22
Appears the RP filter performed very well. I am going to be purchasing a 4Runner with the same motor. I was thinking about purchasing 10 of the Toyota OEM filter. Has anyone had experience with this filter? If the feedback is poor, I will purchase multiple RP filters. Tha ,s in advance for the feedback.


I don't have any test results on OEM, but I'd suggest purchasing one OEM filter and trying it, and go from there. I wouldn't buy 10, but I wouldn't dismiss them in favor of RP.

The RP does cost about $15, so if there is a cheaper alternative (cue the Fram-Boy Chorus), it is worth considering.

Last edited by JerryBob; 01/24/16 07:20 PM.
Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: Georgiey22] #3988964
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Originally Posted By: Georgiey22
Appears the RP filter performed very well. I am going to be purchasing a 4Runner with the same motor. I was thinking about purchasing 10 of the Toyota OEM filter. Has anyone had experience with this filter? If the feedback is poor, I will purchase multiple RP filters. Tha ,s in advance for the feedback.
No experience with oem filter only the factory can I pulled off just ran the gamut of aftermarket filters till RP was what I was liking out of all of them.

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: Georgiey22] #3988965
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Originally Posted By: Georgiey22
Appears the RP filter performed very well. I am going to be purchasing a 4Runner with the same motor. I was thinking about purchasing 10 of the Toyota OEM filter. Has anyone had experience with this filter? If the feedback is poor, I will purchase multiple RP filters. Tha ,s in advance for the feedback.


The 4runner 4.0 v6 is a different animal with duel variable valve timing. VvTi IIRC?

Sadly the 4runner takes a cartridge too.

I dont think the Tacoma requires 0w20 either?


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: dlundblad] #3988980
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JerryBob Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: Georgiey22
Appears the RP filter performed very well. I am going to be purchasing a 4Runner with the same motor. I was thinking about purchasing 10 of the Toyota OEM filter. Has anyone had experience with this filter? If the feedback is poor, I will purchase multiple RP filters. Tha ,s in advance for the feedback.


The 4runner 4.0 v6 is a different animal with duel variable valve timing. VvTi IIRC?

Sadly the 4runner takes a cartridge too.

I dont think the Tacoma requires 0w20 either?


My first (2011) Tacoma was a 4-cylinder, and it required 0w-20 (synthetic). The '15 is a V6 and specs any old 5W-30. Both call for a 5K OCI.

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3989006
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If you can get a Motorcraft filter that fits your app I would try that. They have great ADBVs and are much more value for the money.

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3989008
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Originally Posted By: JerryBob
The section of the faceplate metal behind the ADBV was completely dry, as if it had never come in contact with oil (meaning it sealed well).


... how does any part inside the oil filter not come in contact with oil?

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3989058
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Thanks for the cut and post smile

The purple ADBV is nice. Also, both the RP and M1 are made by Fram.

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3989065
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Originally Posted By: JerryBob
I might try Fram and Wix to see how their ADBVs perform.
I ran the FRAM Ultra for 15K and 17K and both of them were full of oil when opened. In addition, the Ford Modular engine is very sensitive to ABDVs (start-up rattle) and I never had it once with the Ultras. YMMV!

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3989133
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The Toyota OEM filters are typically well built however I think their efficiency is likely closer to a wix than a fram ultra. For the price they seem to be the best overall value unless you get an ultra and run it for 2 oci's.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: JerryBob] #3989154
01/24/16 10:33 PM
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Thanks for you cut and post.. My Fram Ultra on the lady's Camry had 0 oil in it when I got it loosened. It is set up with the open end downward. Before the filters have had some oil in them which leaked out. This one didn't. I'm thinking this Fram Ultra had a bad ADBV. Surprised me a good amount. Now, when I pulled my Fram Ultra 7317 on my Altima that day in which I emptied the oil out if it... It had a lot of oil in it. I emptied the used oil out of it and put it back on. There was a big difference between the two of them.

I agree with others that the Fram Ultra is a very good option here. The Royal Purple oil filters are very very stout though smile they are strong as all get out.


Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Mobil Super 5w30 Wix 57356
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Re: Royal Purple Filter Cut Open [Re: ZeeOSix] #3989192
01/25/16 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: JerryBob
The section of the faceplate metal behind the ADBV was completely dry, as if it had never come in contact with oil (meaning it sealed well).


... how does any part inside the oil filter not come in contact with oil?



Oil starved engine

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