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VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 #3936722
12/03/15 11:48 PM
12/03/15 11:48 PM
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Here is Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90, which is supposedly spec for Saab MTF 0063, and also suited for BMW non-LSD differentials as an alternate to Castrol XO/XJ. Fuchs recommends this (not approved apparently) for: VW TL 521 45-Y (G 052 145 A2)

I intend to use this in my BMW 135i differential.





For comparison to the Pentosin FFL 3 75w fluid, which has 25ppm Ca, 105ppm B, 442 ppm P, and an acid number of 1.03 seen here:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...lui#Post3932747

Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #3937638
12/05/15 12:58 AM
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http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1336590

Compare it to the MTF0063 above.

Was your bottle shaken prior to sampling?


At what point should a lurker start posting :-)
Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #3938231
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I didn't make an effort to vigorously shake it. It shouldn't be necessary IMO.

Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #3942127
12/09/15 08:46 PM
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This one looks like it may have a Sodium Tri-Sulfate-Phosphate EP package.

Undoubtedly there are other organic EP components.

The oxidation number tells me it may have a POE ester or a sulfurized ester component.


Last edited by MolaKule; 12/09/15 08:49 PM.

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Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #3955364
12/22/15 07:54 AM
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MSDS gives Amines, C12-14-tert-alkyl and Oleyl amine

http://cdn.opieoils.co.uk/msds/fuchs/TITAN%20SINTOPOID%2075W-90_sds.pdf

Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #3956019
12/22/15 05:32 PM
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You should know that an MSDS only shows chemicals that are potentially hazardous or toxic.

An MSDS is NOT a formula sheet for the product.


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Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #3956065
12/22/15 06:03 PM
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Yes, I know, but when you said:"Undoubtedly there are other organic EP components", we can have a look at the MSDS to complete the information if some of them are listed in the MSDS and invisible on the VOA. With no guaranty there are no others smile

Despite in this case, the two components listed seems to be part of keto amide friction modifier ? do you agree ?

Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #3956372
12/23/15 01:53 AM
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One is a friction modifier while the other is an anti-oxidant.

Quote:
we can have a look at the MSDS to complete the information if some of them are listed in the MSDS and invisible on the VOA. With no guaranty there are no others


I don't agree. You cannot complete the information by your method.

One would need a host of analytical instruments (including GC-FFTIR) to determine the full range of chemistry.

When I said:
Quote:
"Undoubtedly there are other organic EP components",
I was basing that on my experience and what I use in the lab, and the chemistry's that make up additive packages.

Last edited by MolaKule; 12/23/15 01:56 AM.

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Re: VOA Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90 [Re: JHZR2] #4624768
01/05/18 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Here is Fuchs Sintopoid 75w-90, which is supposedly spec for Saab MTF 0063, and also suited for BMW non-LSD differentials as an alternate to Castrol XO/XJ. Fuchs recommends this (not approved apparently) for: VW TL 521 45-Y (G 052 145 A2)

I intend to use this in my BMW 135i differential.


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