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#3919088 - 11/15/15 11:25 PM Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier
JettyLife Offline


Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 23
Loc: New Jersey
Hey everyone, sold my car and got back into a Nissan Frontier.
This time around it's a 2012 V6, automatic trans 4x4. The first time I had a 2010 Frontier I went to quick lube places and didn't pay much attention to the maintenance of the truck. This time around I'm older, wiser, and more active in the maintenance of my vehicle.

Nissan recommends 5w30 and a Nissan genuine filter or equivalent.

Driving:
I live in southern NJ. I live .9 miles from work and live in a small town. I do a lot of small trips throughout the week with a lot of cold starts. I try to do a longer drive (30-40 minutes) once a week or so. I drive about 7k miles a year.
The weather is mild throughout most of the year but can get down to 0*F in the winter occasionally and over 100*F in the summer.
I'm not too concerned with lengthy oil change intervals because I do the changes myself and I really don't do that many miles.

I need help choosing what oil to run, what filter, and when to change.

After doing some reasearch I'm leaning towards a Castrol product (not sure which one yet) full synthetic with oil changes in November and March. Not going by mileage necessarily.

Any advice for me?
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2012 Nissan Frontier - 41k miles - Castrol Edge 5w30
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#3919092 - 11/15/15 11:33 PM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
Since you're not dropping below zero in the Winter, I don't think you need 5W-30.

As far as the filter goes, see if a Fram XG is available for your truck.

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#3919093 - 11/15/15 11:36 PM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
Quest Offline


Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 7383
Loc: beaver land EH?
given the short trips and primarily single occupancy, I'd use any conventional motor oil and change it every 5K or so.

You can go fancy with all sorts of syns, but frankly, I don't see such need.

of course, it's your mullah so it's up to you.

Q.
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#3919106 - 11/16/15 12:19 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: Quest]
69GTX Offline


Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3815
Loc: Connecticut
I came here a few months ago with the same issues...a short tripper car, 8K per year, northeast winters down to 0-20 deg F, all to see if I could do it better.

I came up with sticking with 2 oil changes per year. At only 3500 miles per oil change you can use most any decent brand conventional oil or even a synthetic. The synthetics on sale a couple of times per year will still only cost you $3 quart or less if you do it yourself. Lots of good choices in the $2-$4/quart range. Paper oil filters seem to be under attack for tearing and other issues. Paying $2-$3 extra for a Fram ultra guard synthetic filter ($8-$9 before $2 rebates) makes sense to me. I can afford the extra $6 per year for peace of mind.

With a 2X per year interval you almost can't go wrong with whatever oil/filter combo you choose. I would consider your frequent 0.9 miles trips to be severe duty, especially in winter. What has your oil life monitor been at on your previous oil changes with the 2010 Frontier? What happened to that where you sold it fairly soon?
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1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
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#3919108 - 11/16/15 12:22 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
mobilaltima Offline


Registered: 02/03/11
Posts: 1148
Loc: Golden Meadow, LA
They do make a Fram Ultra for your truck, XG7317.
I'd run the Ultra and some Castrol Edge 5W30 and change it every 5k. Wouldnt hurt to get an oil analysis either
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#3919119 - 11/16/15 01:02 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
holdorf333 Offline


Registered: 01/15/11
Posts: 117
Loc: Colorado
Fram TG and 5w-30 syn ST from wally world. Change once every year.

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#3919123 - 11/16/15 01:28 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: holdorf333]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
Originally Posted By: holdorf333
Fram TG XG and 5w-30 10W-30 syn ST from wally world. Change once every year.


You almost had it. grin2

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#3919152 - 11/16/15 03:45 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24574
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
If you want a thicker oil, there are thicker options that aren't a silly ILSAC 10w-30. If you're looking to follow warranty requirements, note that they call for an SM or newer 5w-30, not even an SM/GF-4 or newer 5w-30.
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#3919229 - 11/16/15 07:14 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
Cooper Offline


Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 1527
Loc: Mid-West, USA
Short trips in the cold without proper warm up potentially cause varnish and sludge. This is especially true with dino oils. That being said, I would recommend a good synthetic oil. I personally like Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 or Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 in my Nissan Xterra. (Same VQ40 as you have) I like Fram Ultra XG7317 and Wix 57356 filters. I currently use the Wix filters because I do 5k OCI's and don't need the more expensive Fram filter. But, I would use them if I didn't have a stash of Wix filters.
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#3919236 - 11/16/15 07:31 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: Garak]
05LGTLtd Offline


Registered: 03/04/13
Posts: 1019
Loc: Va
Originally Posted By: Garak
If you want a thicker oil, there are thicker options that aren't a silly ILSAC 10w-30. If you're looking to follow warranty requirements, note that they call for an SM or newer 5w-30, not even an SM/GF-4 or newer 5w-30.


Wants a Castrol product.

Spec'd 30 grade..

7k a year...

Edge 0w-30 or 5w-30 with a decent filter, change it every spring. Fram TG or Ultra or decent napa/wix.

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#3919257 - 11/16/15 07:57 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
Wasatch1 Offline


Registered: 10/24/15
Posts: 60
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I have that same truck and plan on sticking to the schedule 1 OCI (3750mi) while in the factory warranty.

I think a good dino oil would be sufficient for your application. I like PYB.
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#3919453 - 11/16/15 11:07 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
JettyLife Offline


Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 23
Loc: New Jersey
I will for sure get a Blackstone Labs UOA after my first change. I've got a few kits laying around.
The reason I'm leaning towards Castrol is because I bought the car from Carsense and they have an engine life guarantee if you use Castrol products for the life of the engine. Now, I don't expect to have any issues (these engines do have occasional timing chain whine) but other than that they're pretty robust. I figure "why not" if they're going to cover the engine forever for me to use Castrol I might as well.
On second thought... it'll probably be near impossible to get them to cover any catastrophic damage if I do the changes myself anyway.

I'm surprised to hear people recommend Fram filters as I thought people in the know used the F.R.A.M as an acronym for something negative. I'll give them a try though.

Do you guys think the full synthetic will help combat sludge build up from my short trips?

How long do you think it would take for the engine oil to reach proper temperature in the 4.0L V6 VQ40? I can go "the long way" to work is needed, I'd rather spare the engine some damage if I can.
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#3919484 - 11/16/15 11:50 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24574
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
There are several Castrol 5w-30 grades, depending upon your location, ILSAC and otherwise.

05LGTLtd: The point I was trying to make is that some poo-poo 5w-30 and talk about 10w-30 as being thicker or more appropriate, without even considering what 5w-30 options are available or acceptable under Nissan/Infiniti manuals, particularly if one is stuck on a synthetic Castrol product.
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2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

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#3919495 - 11/16/15 11:59 AM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: Garak]
05LGTLtd Offline


Registered: 03/04/13
Posts: 1019
Loc: Va
Originally Posted By: Garak
There are several Castrol 5w-30 grades, depending upon your location, ILSAC and otherwise.

05LGTLtd: The point I was trying to make is that some poo-poo 5w-30 and talk about 10w-30 as being thicker or more appropriate, without even considering what 5w-30 options are available or acceptable under Nissan/Infiniti manuals, particularly if one is stuck on a synthetic Castrol product.


Point I was making (not directly) is the HTHS on the edge 0w30 is better than most 10w-30's. It's all good.

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#3919496 - 11/16/15 12:01 PM Re: Recommend Oil For 2012 Nissan Frontier [Re: JettyLife]
sicko Offline


Registered: 09/22/08
Posts: 1723
Loc: Virginia
If it were my vehicle and I was going to use Castrol products, I'd use Castrol 0w-30 with a Fram Ultra filter and change it once a year. However it sounds like you want to change it twice a year, so you can just use conventional oil and be fine.

If you're dead set on using Castrol, then use their conventional GTX. But if you decide to use other oils, than any name brand oil should be fine (Mobil, Pennzoil, Valvoline, Havoline, Kendall, Super Tech, etc.).

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