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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3843930 09/05/15 05:13 PM
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IIRC, GM uses M1 0w-40 in their Corvette Race Program. I'd suggest trying that. It is also like half the price, which is a nice plus.


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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3844137 09/05/15 09:17 PM
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I want to thank everyone for their input.

Here are some clarifications to questions asked.

1. Yes, I didn't notice that the Magnesium was indeed dropping every OCI
2. I use the stock Ac Delco recommended filter
3. I decided to use Redline because I was under the impression that it was the best and I was not concerned
about its cost. I was using Mobil1 0w40 on last car when road racing.
4. This Corvette is NOT being road raced like my last one. It will only see 1 AutoX per month. That equates to
about 10 minutes of hard driving in 2nd gear. This is easier than a cruise through the canyon. The motor
barely gets hot and there is no comparison to road racing.
5. Because I am not road racing I am not going to go with the larger oil capacity as I did on last car. I actually
have to try hard in low gears on street to get the oil up to 200* Mostly the car sees 150* and 50-60 psi.

Thanks
DH




Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Ramblejam] #3844184 09/05/15 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
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GM now specs 15W50 if tracked or raced. You'd mentioned tacking your car to the track twice.


Are you just parroting information that applies to C7's...or do you actually have a document that shows this as GM approved for a '06 Z06?


Here's some Z06 discussion:

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3586726-15w-50-oil-for-track-events.html


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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: aquariuscsm] #3844293 09/06/15 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
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GM now specs 15W50 if tracked or raced. You'd mentioned tacking your car to the track twice.


Are you just parroting information that applies to C7's...or do you actually have a document that shows this as GM approved for a '06 Z06?


Here's some Z06 discussion:

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3586726-15w-50-oil-for-track-events.html


You do realize you're linking to a C7 Z06 discussion, right? As I said before:

"Are you just parroting information that applies to C7's...or do you actually have a document that shows this as GM approved for a '06 Z06?"

Originally Posted By: Dirty_Howie
Here are some clarifications to questions asked.


I'll do the same. Listen, DH:

1. Go to Walmart.
2. Get Castrol Edge 5w-30 and Fram XG10060.
3. Run for same mileage as you've been doing, and get another analysis.
4. Report back with the results.

Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3844344 09/06/15 06:58 AM
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I'd love to see a UOA after a few runs of Mobil 1 0W40.


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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Ramblejam] #3844426 09/06/15 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
GM now specs 15W50 if tracked or raced. You'd mentioned tacking your car to the track twice.


Are you just parroting information that applies to C7's...or do you actually have a document that shows this as GM approved for a '06 Z06?


Here's some Z06 discussion:

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3586726-15w-50-oil-for-track-events.html


You do realize you're linking to a C7 Z06 discussion, right? As I said before:

"Are you just parroting information that applies to C7's...or do you actually have a document that shows this as GM approved for a '06 Z06?"

Originally Posted By: Dirty_Howie
Here are some clarifications to questions asked.


I'll do the same. Listen, DH:

1. Go to Walmart.
2. Get Castrol Edge 5w-30 and Fram XG10060.
3. Run for same mileage as you've been doing, and get another analysis.
4. Report back with the results.


Why Castrol Edge? Isn't Mobil 1 what GM spec'd for the 2006 Corvette? Do you have any documentation from GM requiring the use of Castrol Edge?


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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: aquariuscsm] #3844457 09/06/15 09:53 AM
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You could have said that you made a mistake with your original statement, and just moved on. Instead, you want to double down? Fine.

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Why Castrol Edge? Isn't Mobil 1 what GM spec'd for the 2006 Corvette? Do you have any documentation from GM requiring the use of Castrol Edge?


My suggestion is based upon analysis data that is widely available for GM small-blocks across the 'net. Did I say anything about GM recommending or specifying Castrol Edge? I did not, and your painfully inept attempt at trying to distract attention from your now second erroneous statement in this thread is absurd.

To that point - GM did not spec Mobil 1 for the '06 Z06. Per the owners manual:


Will you see Mobil 1 emblazoned oil fill cap? Sure.
Will you see a mention in the owners manual? Yes:
"Your vehicle’s engine is filled at the factory with a Mobil 1® synthetic oil, which meets all requirements for your vehicle."

However, marketing prowess is certainly not the same as specifying an oil for usage in this application.


Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3844481 09/06/15 10:41 AM
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Isn't Redline 5w-30 essentially a 40wt because of how thick it is?

Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Ramblejam] #3844542 09/06/15 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
You could have said that you made a mistake with your original statement, and just moved on. Instead, you want to double down? Fine.

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Why Castrol Edge? Isn't Mobil 1 what GM spec'd for the 2006 Corvette? Do you have any documentation from GM requiring the use of Castrol Edge?


My suggestion is based upon analysis data that is widely available for GM small-blocks across the 'net. Did I say anything about GM recommending or specifying Castrol Edge? I did not, and your painfully inept attempt at trying to distract attention from your now second erroneous statement in this thread is absurd.

To that point - GM did not spec Mobil 1 for the '06 Z06. Per the owners manual:


Will you see Mobil 1 emblazoned oil fill cap? Sure.
Will you see a mention in the owners manual? Yes:
"Your vehicle’s engine is filled at the factory with a Mobil 1® synthetic oil, which meets all requirements for your vehicle."

However, marketing prowess is certainly not the same as specifying an oil for usage in this application.



Did I say "GM now specs 15W50 for the *06* Corvette"? Nope. Syntec also did not carry the GM4718M approval nor does Edge as per documentation you provided.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1570533


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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3844827 09/06/15 05:16 PM
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4718M is obsolete and was replaced with dexos1. Anything that is dexos1 can be used as it meets the spec.


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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3844846 09/06/15 05:35 PM
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Does Chevrolet recommend racing their vehicles?


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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: CT8] #3844868 09/06/15 05:58 PM
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The Vette only has two real purposes. The first is for racing. The second is to satisfy old farts with too much money. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: aquariuscsm] #3844876 09/06/15 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Did I say "GM now specs 15W50 for the *06* Corvette"? Nope. Syntec also did not carry the GM4718M approval nor does Edge as per documentation you provided.


When a grown adult has to unfortunately employ special pleading and tu quoque as the foundation for their discourse, there's no reason for me to continue the discussion with them; you'll just crudely attempt to spin-off in another direction in a vain attempt at deflecting attention from your false statements.

For the benefit of everyone else -- to now correct his third bit of misinformation, here's the word directly from Castrol during their Q&A here:

"Although it is no longer a current specification, Castrol EDGE with SYNTEC would meet the obsolete GM 4718 specification."

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/castrol-edge-qa/

Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3845077 09/06/15 10:14 PM
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Again, thanks for the input guys.

I'm inclined to keep the GM AC/Delco filter that I have always used since 2008 on my LS7 motors.

It seems most think I should try another oil but no one is saying in what way these oils are better than Redline 5w30.

If do try something different for experimental purposes I would likely use Mobil1 0W40 as I have previously used it on my last LS7 when I was heavy into road racing.

DH




Re: Corvette UA0 with Redline 5w30: High Lead [Re: Dirty_Howie] #3845110 09/06/15 11:01 PM
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I agree with greasymechtech, the Redline 0w40 is VERY VERY stout even compared to the 5w30. Example: [email protected] is ~40% higher than 5w30. Go to redlineoil.com and do the comparison in their technical info/product info area. There is a PDF that shows the product info on the whole range.

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