I ran 20 year old oil in my car...here's the UOA
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Do you have any pics of the old bottles? I'd love to see what the labels look like. Looks like Pennzoil has always been the best of the best.
Very interesting, especially the 45 Boron measurement analyzed. I was not aware that Boron was used in additive packs back in those days of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
Originally Posted By: webfors
Now back to the regular scheduled & boring 2015 expensive syn UOAs run for 5k miles
Ain't that the truth!
Now back to the regular scheduled & boring 2015 expensive syn UOAs run for 5k miles
Ain't that the truth!
Many years ago when my grandfather passed my father and I were cleaning out his barn and we found many cases of old oil some of it was real old cans of "Oilzum" motor oil. my father ran it all in his Jeep Liberty for several years with no issues. He sold the Jeep about a year ago with over 200,000 miles. So much for bad oil oil I guess.
Originally Posted By: dorcheat
Very interesting, especially the 45 Boron measurement analyzed. I was not aware that Boron was used in additive packs back in those days of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
In spite of the wisdom on BITIG on additives and treat rates, some of the older (old, canned oils) had some amazing additives
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3474476/Blackstone_testing_of_ancient_
Very interesting, especially the 45 Boron measurement analyzed. I was not aware that Boron was used in additive packs back in those days of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
In spite of the wisdom on BITIG on additives and treat rates, some of the older (old, canned oils) had some amazing additives
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3474476/Blackstone_testing_of_ancient_
Originally Posted By: Camprunner
Many years ago when my grandfather passed my father and I were cleaning out his barn and we found many cases of old oil some of it was real old cans of "Oilzum" motor oil. my father ran it all in his Jeep Liberty for several years with no issues. He sold the Jeep about a year ago with over 200,000 miles. So much for bad oil oil I guess.
Thats astonishing. How old do you think the Oilzum was? Castrol bought them in the early 70's but that Oilzum name as persisted. Was that SE oil, which came out in 1971? Or before? SE I could see maybe not harming a modern engine, but, not a good idea. Yet it made it many miles.
Many years ago when my grandfather passed my father and I were cleaning out his barn and we found many cases of old oil some of it was real old cans of "Oilzum" motor oil. my father ran it all in his Jeep Liberty for several years with no issues. He sold the Jeep about a year ago with over 200,000 miles. So much for bad oil oil I guess.
Thats astonishing. How old do you think the Oilzum was? Castrol bought them in the early 70's but that Oilzum name as persisted. Was that SE oil, which came out in 1971? Or before? SE I could see maybe not harming a modern engine, but, not a good idea. Yet it made it many miles.
Originally Posted By: ExMachina
Originally Posted By: Camprunner
Many years ago when my grandfather passed my father and I were cleaning out his barn and we found many cases of old oil some of it was real old cans of "Oilzum" motor oil. my father ran it all in his Jeep Liberty for several years with no issues. He sold the Jeep about a year ago with over 200,000 miles. So much for bad oil oil I guess.
Thats astonishing. How old do you think the Oilzum was? Castrol bought them in the early 70's but that Oilzum name as persisted. Was that SE oil, which came out in 1971? Or before? SE I could see maybe not harming a modern engine, but, not a good idea. Yet it made it many miles.
I wish I knew how old it was it was before I started to hang out here so I never bothered to look if it was SE or older. He asked me at the time if I wanted any but I declined and said dad why would you run that old stuff it's probably no good? His reply.... "I'm cheep and I won't need to buy oil for three plus years" funny he has also only used the Fram Orange can cheep oil filters for as long as I can remember and never a motor problem with any car he has owned.
Originally Posted By: Camprunner
Many years ago when my grandfather passed my father and I were cleaning out his barn and we found many cases of old oil some of it was real old cans of "Oilzum" motor oil. my father ran it all in his Jeep Liberty for several years with no issues. He sold the Jeep about a year ago with over 200,000 miles. So much for bad oil oil I guess.
Thats astonishing. How old do you think the Oilzum was? Castrol bought them in the early 70's but that Oilzum name as persisted. Was that SE oil, which came out in 1971? Or before? SE I could see maybe not harming a modern engine, but, not a good idea. Yet it made it many miles.
I wish I knew how old it was it was before I started to hang out here so I never bothered to look if it was SE or older. He asked me at the time if I wanted any but I declined and said dad why would you run that old stuff it's probably no good? His reply.... "I'm cheep and I won't need to buy oil for three plus years" funny he has also only used the Fram Orange can cheep oil filters for as long as I can remember and never a motor problem with any car he has owned.
Originally Posted By: dorcheat
Very interesting, especially the 45 Boron measurement analyzed. I was not aware that Boron was used in additive packs back in those days of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
Before running this SH Performax I ran an OCI of Mobil 1 5w20 SM and before that some older SJ/SL (mixed) Valvoline synthetic so possibly the Boron is residual...
As far as posting pictures...I'll try to get my daughter to do it but it's out of my technical abilities to do so. I do have some interesting older synthetics to post pics of...
Very interesting, especially the 45 Boron measurement analyzed. I was not aware that Boron was used in additive packs back in those days of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
Before running this SH Performax I ran an OCI of Mobil 1 5w20 SM and before that some older SJ/SL (mixed) Valvoline synthetic so possibly the Boron is residual...
As far as posting pictures...I'll try to get my daughter to do it but it's out of my technical abilities to do so. I do have some interesting older synthetics to post pics of...
Originally Posted By: ExMachina
Originally Posted By: Camprunner
Many years ago when my grandfather passed my father and I were cleaning out his barn and we found many cases of old oil some of it was real old cans of "Oilzum" motor oil. my father ran it all in his Jeep Liberty for several years with no issues. He sold the Jeep about a year ago with over 200,000 miles. So much for bad oil oil I guess.
Thats astonishing. How old do you think the Oilzum was? Castrol bought them in the early 70's but that Oilzum name as persisted. Was that SE oil, which came out in 1971? Or before? SE I could see maybe not harming a modern engine, but, not a good idea. Yet it made it many miles.
yeah, obviously it wasn't a good idea.
Originally Posted By: Camprunner
Many years ago when my grandfather passed my father and I were cleaning out his barn and we found many cases of old oil some of it was real old cans of "Oilzum" motor oil. my father ran it all in his Jeep Liberty for several years with no issues. He sold the Jeep about a year ago with over 200,000 miles. So much for bad oil oil I guess.
Thats astonishing. How old do you think the Oilzum was? Castrol bought them in the early 70's but that Oilzum name as persisted. Was that SE oil, which came out in 1971? Or before? SE I could see maybe not harming a modern engine, but, not a good idea. Yet it made it many miles.
yeah, obviously it wasn't a good idea.
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Originally Posted By: stchman
To the OP:
What prompted you to run oil that has been sitting around for 20+ years on a shelf in your car?
SH rated oil was late 80s, early 90s.
How clean is it keeping the engine?
API SH does not have the advanced detergents we have today.
To the OP:
What prompted you to run oil that has been sitting around for 20+ years on a shelf in your car?
SH rated oil was late 80s, early 90s.
How clean is it keeping the engine?
API SH does not have the advanced detergents we have today.
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Originally Posted By: stchman
To the OP:
What prompted you to run oil that has been sitting around for 20+ years on a shelf in your car?
SH rated oil was late 80s, early 90s.
How clean is it keeping the engine?
API SH does not have the advanced detergents we have today.
Yeah, it makes me wonder how engines from the 80's and 90's ever made it. I mean the oil being so horrible and all.
Originally Posted By: stchman
To the OP:
What prompted you to run oil that has been sitting around for 20+ years on a shelf in your car?
SH rated oil was late 80s, early 90s.
How clean is it keeping the engine?
API SH does not have the advanced detergents we have today.
Yeah, it makes me wonder how engines from the 80's and 90's ever made it. I mean the oil being so horrible and all.
Originally Posted By: pbm
I think this UOA proves that oil doesn't 'go bad'....it just goes out of spec...
I don't know if you could say its "out of spec" even though it is SH rated, the readings look similiar to SN. I wonder if the bottles or cans were shaken up before dumping in?
I think this UOA proves that oil doesn't 'go bad'....it just goes out of spec...
I don't know if you could say its "out of spec" even though it is SH rated, the readings look similiar to SN. I wonder if the bottles or cans were shaken up before dumping in?
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I think he means by "out of spec" the spec going outdated, as in no longer current.
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