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'15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA #3812739
08/05/15 05:48 PM
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Just received my first UOA for my 6.7 Powerstroke;
I bought truck new and have changed per IOLM, no sample sent in on factory fill.
Oil used is Deere Plus 50 II 10w-30, oil and filter was changed at time of sample.
Sample was sent in on 7/29/15
Sample kits through Deere
This truck as my previous is my work/personal truck, it gets driven down the highway, loaded throughout the summer.

total miles on truck: 14,960

miles on sample: 7,840

Fe.....................38

Cr......................3

Ni.....................<1

Al.....................10

Pb......................1

Cu.....................13

Sn.....................<1

Ag....................<.1

Ti.....................<1

Si.....................15

B.....................206

Na.....................12

K.......................3

Mo....................274

P....................1036

Zn...................1249

Ca...................1675

Ba......................1

Viscosity 100C.......11.7

No fuel or water present at the time of sampling.

The truck is completely stock and regeneration takes place approx 450-500 mi. during highway use.

Overall sample looks good, this is my first experience with diesel DPF/regeneration and quite honestly wasn't quite sure what to expect with this UOA using the IOLM, its obviously set conservatively. No TBN test was preformed.


'15 F350 6.7
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3812797
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Not bad for a new engine, even with emissions stuff still on.


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3812811
08/05/15 07:08 PM
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I assume this trucks gets a lot of highway driving? Thats why fuel dilution is very low.

Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3813164
08/06/15 07:20 AM
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Looks good so far.
Break-in still subsiding I suspect. I expect the Fe and Cu will drop a tad on a per-mile basis as it ages in.

Nothing wrong at all in that report!


How do you like the greater power, quietness, etc over the old 6.0L?


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3813294
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unbelievable!


'15 F350 6.7
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3813299
08/06/15 09:56 AM
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Your enthusiasm and brevity are both duly noted. grin2


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3813349
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Brevity was due to e-mail that I was waiting on to print had completed.

As you well know both of my 6.0's were very good to me, I put a lot of miles on them and never had an expensive break down, they didn't owe me anything.

This 6.7 is a complete beast, fuel economy is a bit better than the 6.0 and when you decide you need to pass someone it isn't an issue. there isn't a reason to keep all of those horses in the barn all of the time.
It is also very quiet compared to the 6.0.

This sample caught me somewhat off guard, I really didn't know what to expect with all I have heard of fuel dilution and guys changing syn. out early (3,500-5,000 mi.). From what I have read with this sample everyone can just sit back and let the IOLM tell you when service is required.


'15 F350 6.7
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3818400
08/11/15 06:23 AM
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Yup - the IOLM is going to be conservative to begin with.

A little fuel in the oil, while not desirable, has yet to manifest into horrid results in wear. That is true of not just the diesels, but most DI gasser engines. People freak out seeing the fuel in a 3.5L EB engine, but the wear rates really are not changed much at all.

Seeing up to a few percent points of fuel does not worry me if it's NORMAL for the engine series. Fuel-in-lube is scary when you see it escalate over successive UOAs because it means an injector is leaking. But a consistent point or two of fuel with diesel regens (or gasser DI) is nothing to fret over.

The IOLM is typically set conservative enough that you'll be rid of the fuel (via OCI) long before it ever becomes high enough to be an issue in terms of affecting wear rates.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3819900
08/12/15 02:33 PM
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Glad to see no fuel in your oil. I recently went back a few pages and saw Beercan's samples from his 6.7 and he had plenty of fuel in every sample.

My only experience with dpf/scr and such is with my volvo heavy duty truck. Volvo uses passive regeneration and the only time an active regen (sending fuel downstream through the exhaust) happens is after many hours of idling. Fuel is never a problem due to the emissions system, although I've had injector cup issues with my previous truck that gave me 2% fuel for awhile.

I hope everything keeps working well for your truck. I'm amazed with that particular engine and transmission.

Oh...you left out the magnesium content of your sample wink



Last edited by dustyroads; 08/12/15 02:46 PM. Reason: Finished a sentence

2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 101k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3819916
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Mg 815

Good catch I didn't realize it wasn't printed from the email.

I'm quite happy with the current sample, as I said earlier I quite didn't know what to expect as this is my first experience with modern emissions systems. I will be happy just letting the IOLM tell me when its time to change.


'15 F350 6.7
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3819921
08/12/15 02:50 PM
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With those results, that should be great!


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 101k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3885004
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I have the second UOA from my 6.7.
Oil is John Deere plus 50 II 10w-30
Oil and filter were changed at the time of sample, per IOLM
I have 24,670 mi. total on the truck with 9,710 mi. on this interval.

24,670mi. 14,960mi.

iron....................25.....................38

chromium.................2......................3

nickel..................<1.....................<1

aluminum.................7.....................10

lead....................<1......................1

copper...................3.....................13

tin.....................<1.....................<1

silicon.................10.....................15

boron..................183....................206

sodium..................<1.....................12

potassium................1......................3

moly...................268....................274

phos...................882...................1036

zinc..................1038...................1249

calcium...............1294...................1675

magnesium..............805....................815

viscosity @ 100C ....11.4...................11.7

no fuel or water was present in either sample

It appears as my 6.7 is breaking in nicely with wear metals dropping, just wanted to keep everyone updated as this is my first experience with modern emissions diesel engines. No need to fear 10w-30 or trusting the IOLM as this sample was taken at 9,710 mi.


'15 F350 6.7
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3886639
10/15/15 05:12 PM
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Very nice results. Will you keep using this oil?


2012 Hyundai Sonata GLS 6MT 2.4GDI, ProDS 10w30, XG9688 filter, 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander SEL 2.4 CVT, Factory fill still.
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: Brons2] #3887141
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Originally Posted By: Brons2
Very nice results. Will you keep using this oil?


Yes its the only oil my mom will let me [url=buyhttp://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/images/icons/default/laugh.gif][url=buyhttp://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/images/icons/default/laugh.gif][url=buyhttp://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/images/icons/default/laugh.gif]buyhttp://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/images/icons/default/laugh.gif[/url][/url][/url]

I am pleased with the results especially after hearing of fuel dilution issues with this engine series, I haven't experienced it and don't forsee it. I have been using this brand of oil for about 25 years in various different diesel applications (10w-30 & 15w-40) without issue.

I had switched to 10w-30 in my 6.0 several years ago and will continue on with the 6.7.


'15 F350 6.7
Re: '15 6.7 Powerstroke UOA [Re: roadrunner1] #3887736
10/16/15 03:08 PM
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I can't imagine too many scenarios that the 10W30 can't handle.

You're off to a good start with this truck.


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 101k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
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