Recent Topics
WEC (incl LeMans) to be broadcast by Velocity & MT
by Indydriver
04/24/18 04:59 AM
ILLEGAL
by MrQuackers
04/24/18 04:15 AM
Really nice 1979 Holden Commodore
by Shannow
04/24/18 03:39 AM
Smith & Wesson M&P Shield
by PW01
04/24/18 02:41 AM
Relationship between VI and VII
by OilUzer
04/24/18 01:39 AM
News in Kansas
by Marco620
04/24/18 12:11 AM
Amsoil EAO 80 Cut Open (26500 miles)
by A310
04/23/18 11:29 PM
1965 Buda D175 Rotella 15W40
by A310
04/23/18 11:16 PM
So... kinda mad at Ford right now!
by SubieRubyRoo
04/23/18 10:20 PM
Mopar MO-349, 6k miles - C&P
by webfors
04/23/18 08:50 PM
2005 Accord V6 Steering Wobble (low speed only)
by JEL01
04/23/18 08:34 PM
EcoTec Filter suggestions?
by GMWeber
04/23/18 08:21 PM
Occasional brake noise??
by blupupher
04/23/18 08:11 PM
Ford Duratec 2.5L - 5w-20 vs 5w-30?
by dogememe
04/23/18 08:03 PM
New tires quicker to feather?
by supton
04/23/18 07:38 PM
mc fl500S CUT OPEN
by car51
04/23/18 07:34 PM
ACDelco UPF 64 CUT OPEN
by car51
04/23/18 07:26 PM
New Rotellas.. late to the game ...
by webfors
04/23/18 07:23 PM
2012 Ram 2500 Diesel Balljoints
by Bighorn2500
04/23/18 07:21 PM
Pennzoil Synthetic 19.97
by Marco620
04/23/18 07:07 PM
Newest Members
vvillarr, initialjc, rickpa1, CoolShirtDude, Gee_Luva
64829 Registered Users
Who's Online
52 registered (BlueOvalFitter, alarmguy, Artem, Billbert, 87sammy, 2015_PSD, 2 invisible), 666 Guests and 37 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
64829 Members
68 Forums
282238 Topics
4711895 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
#3755897 - 06/10/15 11:00 AM Shell V-Power NiTRO+
Mephy Offline


Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 309
Loc: Toronto
They say has 3 benefit :

1) Gunk

2) Wear

3) Corrosion

Are the same benefits that I have conditioning the gas with MMO+Interceptor with 87 Gas.

Plus I have better combustion.



Edited by Mephy (06/10/15 11:00 AM)
_________________________
Mobil 1 0-40 European Formula
EA Amsoil oil filter
20.000 km OCI.
One bottle of PI before OCI.
Amsoil Interceptor/Dominator 50:50 mix 600:1 each fill up

Top
#3755962 - 06/10/15 12:19 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy]
Danno Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 1920
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.
_________________________
2016 Sorento SX V6 AWD
2015 KIA RIO SX
2010 Mazda 3 2.0L
2009 Venza V6 AWD
2013 Sonata 2.4L RIP in write-off crash

Top
#3755983 - 06/10/15 12:45 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy]
KGMtech Offline


Registered: 10/17/14
Posts: 921
Loc: SW Ontario Canada
Do your O2 sensors both send smiley faces to the ECM with your homebrew?
_________________________
2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV FWD
2013 Nissan Maxima SV
2009 Ford Flex SEL FWD
1984 Yamaha XJ750RL

Top
#3755985 - 06/10/15 12:46 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Danno]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9113
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.

Yeah, call me the same. Usually when the benefits are listed they are either vague or unmeasurable, with no supporting evidence.

I mean, I've driven cars to very high mileage and advanced age for all my driving life, and despite not using anything in the gas I still don't experience rough idle, fuel pump failures, abnormal wear, the horrors of unlubricated upper cylinders (whatever that really means), worn-out injectors or any of the supposed consequences of not using it. The OP states he gets "better combustion". Just how do you measure that?

To be fair I did once buy some Techron when I had a rough idle in my BMW, but that turned out to be a bad coil.

Just because you have used something and experienced no problems does not mean it is preventing them.
_________________________
1994 BMW 530i, 225K
1996 Honda Accord, 268K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 389K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 265K

Top
#3756010 - 06/10/15 01:11 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy]
SrDriver Offline


Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 2789
Loc: Southeast Alabama
If I am not badly mistaken all 3 grades of Shell Gasoline contain the same amount of cleaners and all 3 grades are rated Top Tier. All three grades here contain Ethanol but noticed on a trip up north to Wisconsin that only 87 and 89 octane contain Ethanol.

Top
#3756100 - 06/10/15 02:35 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: SrDriver]
bbhero Offline


Registered: 03/20/15
Posts: 4388
Loc: Virginia
I too think you are spot on with all three grades have the exact same fuel system treatments. Now the 93 usually has ethanol too though in many markets. I've heard there are some that don't though smile
_________________________
Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Havoline Pro DS 5w30 Federated Auto 4612ex
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."

Top
#3756107 - 06/10/15 02:41 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: bbhero]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9113
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: bbhero
I too think you are spot on with all three grades have the exact same fuel system treatments. Now the 93 usually has ethanol too though in many markets. I've heard there are some that don't though smile


I've always seen advertising that says all three grades are the same.

As for ethanol content in the various grades, that is highly regional. Here in southeastern Wisconsin it is required that all gasoline sold in certain counties to be RFG, which in practical terms means ethanol (except for marine fuel). Get out of these counties of Wisconsin and the rules change, as they do for other states. There was a thread here recently on BITOG about it - basically the rules are all over the map.
_________________________
1994 BMW 530i, 225K
1996 Honda Accord, 268K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 389K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 265K

Top
#3756144 - 06/10/15 03:24 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: kschachn]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24051
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
There was a study of detergent levels in various gasolines posted here some time ago showing that the V-Power actually had significantly higher levels of detergent than Bronze or Gold. And usually, gasoline companies do market their fuels as such.
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top
#3756176 - 06/10/15 03:50 PM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy]
Yah-Tah-Hey Offline


Registered: 05/26/14
Posts: 3223
Loc: Columbus,Nebraska
The 91 octane Shell sold here has no ethanol. All gasoline with ethanol sold in our state must have that information prominently displayed on the pump.

Top
#3756738 - 06/11/15 05:50 AM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy]
bandz7 Offline


Registered: 03/15/09
Posts: 165
Loc: Pylesville, MD
I've always been under the impression that their 93 octane (or whatever octane you have in your area) V-Power had much more additive than mid grade or regular.

Now, concerning the V-Power Nitro+, do you think that this gas is too good to put in any extra additives such as TCW3 or a FSC? I feel like there's got to be a point where too much of a good thing isn't!
_________________________
1986 GMC Jimmy S-15 Chevron Delo 15W-40
2001 Corvette Z06 PU 5W-30 RT6 5W-40/MoS2
2003 VW Jetta TDI RT6 5W-40
2010 Nissan Murano PU 5W-30

Top
#3756751 - 06/11/15 06:02 AM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: bandz7]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24051
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
I'm sure there's a point of diminishing returns, plus a point where it's not a good idea (i.e. a whole tank of cleaner and no fuel would be an example), but I don't think one would be at the point where tossing in a bottle of SI-1 into the new V-Power would start making it "less" of a fuel and "more" of a cleaning fluid.
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top
#3756884 - 06/11/15 09:08 AM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: kschachn]
Trajan Offline


Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 3730
Loc: SE PA
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.

Yeah, call me the same. Usually when the benefits are listed they are either vague or unmeasurable, with no supporting evidence.

I mean, I've driven cars to very high mileage and advanced age for all my driving life, and despite not using anything in the gas I still don't experience rough idle, fuel pump failures, abnormal wear, the horrors of unlubricated upper cylinders (whatever that really means), worn-out injectors or any of the supposed consequences of not using it. The OP states he gets "better combustion". Just how do you measure that?

To be fair I did once buy some Techron when I had a rough idle in my BMW, but that turned out to be a bad coil.

Just because you have used something and experienced no problems does not mean it is preventing them.


But, but, kerosene dyed red in the gas or oil is a miracle worker smile
_________________________

Lack of harm is not proof of benefit.

There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates





Top
#3756963 - 06/11/15 10:11 AM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Danno]
Mephy Offline


Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 309
Loc: Toronto
Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.


I did not say that gasoline with 10% of [censored] is better than top tier gasoline
_________________________
Mobil 1 0-40 European Formula
EA Amsoil oil filter
20.000 km OCI.
One bottle of PI before OCI.
Amsoil Interceptor/Dominator 50:50 mix 600:1 each fill up

Top
#3756965 - 06/11/15 10:13 AM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: KGMtech]
Mephy Offline


Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 309
Loc: Toronto
Originally Posted By: KGMtech
Do your O2 sensors both send smiley faces to the ECM with your homebrew?


Guess what do you think ?
_________________________
Mobil 1 0-40 European Formula
EA Amsoil oil filter
20.000 km OCI.
One bottle of PI before OCI.
Amsoil Interceptor/Dominator 50:50 mix 600:1 each fill up

Top
#3756972 - 06/11/15 10:22 AM Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: kschachn]
Mephy Offline


Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 309
Loc: Toronto
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.

Yeah, call me the same. Usually when the benefits are listed they are either vague or unmeasurable, with no supporting evidence.

I mean, I've driven cars to very high mileage and advanced age for all my driving life, and despite not using anything in the gas I still don't experience rough idle, fuel pump failures, abnormal wear, the horrors of unlubricated upper cylinders (whatever that really means), worn-out injectors or any of the supposed consequences of not using it. The OP states he gets "better combustion". Just how do you measure that?

To be fair I did once buy some Techron when I had a rough idle in my BMW, but that turned out to be a bad coil.

Just because you have used something and experienced no problems does not mean it is preventing them.


Makes sense what you say, but I have some proof that makes me think that I have better combustion.

First of all the black carbon deposit on the exhausting pipe has gone, look yours on the BMW, most of BMW that I see have lots of carbon deposit on the exhausting pipe.
_________________________
Mobil 1 0-40 European Formula
EA Amsoil oil filter
20.000 km OCI.
One bottle of PI before OCI.
Amsoil Interceptor/Dominator 50:50 mix 600:1 each fill up

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >