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Shell V-Power NiTRO+ #3755897
06/10/15 11:00 AM
06/10/15 11:00 AM
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Toronto
Mephy Offline OP
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They say has 3 benefit :

1) Gunk

2) Wear

3) Corrosion

Are the same benefits that I have conditioning the gas with MMO+Interceptor with 87 Gas.

Plus I have better combustion.


Last edited by Mephy; 06/10/15 11:00 AM.

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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy] #3755962
06/10/15 12:19 PM
06/10/15 12:19 PM
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Northern Ontario, Canada
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So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.


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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy] #3755983
06/10/15 12:45 PM
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Do your O2 sensors both send smiley faces to the ECM with your homebrew?


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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Danno] #3755985
06/10/15 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.

Yeah, call me the same. Usually when the benefits are listed they are either vague or unmeasurable, with no supporting evidence.

I mean, I've driven cars to very high mileage and advanced age for all my driving life, and despite not using anything in the gas I still don't experience rough idle, fuel pump failures, abnormal wear, the horrors of unlubricated upper cylinders (whatever that really means), worn-out injectors or any of the supposed consequences of not using it. The OP states he gets "better combustion". Just how do you measure that?

To be fair I did once buy some Techron when I had a rough idle in my BMW, but that turned out to be a bad coil.

Just because you have used something and experienced no problems does not mean it is preventing them.


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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy] #3756010
06/10/15 01:11 PM
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If I am not badly mistaken all 3 grades of Shell Gasoline contain the same amount of cleaners and all 3 grades are rated Top Tier. All three grades here contain Ethanol but noticed on a trip up north to Wisconsin that only 87 and 89 octane contain Ethanol.

Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: SrDriver] #3756100
06/10/15 02:35 PM
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I too think you are spot on with all three grades have the exact same fuel system treatments. Now the 93 usually has ethanol too though in many markets. I've heard there are some that don't though smile


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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: bbhero] #3756107
06/10/15 02:41 PM
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Upper Midwest
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Originally Posted By: bbhero
I too think you are spot on with all three grades have the exact same fuel system treatments. Now the 93 usually has ethanol too though in many markets. I've heard there are some that don't though smile


I've always seen advertising that says all three grades are the same.

As for ethanol content in the various grades, that is highly regional. Here in southeastern Wisconsin it is required that all gasoline sold in certain counties to be RFG, which in practical terms means ethanol (except for marine fuel). Get out of these counties of Wisconsin and the rules change, as they do for other states. There was a thread here recently on BITOG about it - basically the rules are all over the map.


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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: kschachn] #3756144
06/10/15 03:24 PM
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There was a study of detergent levels in various gasolines posted here some time ago showing that the V-Power actually had significantly higher levels of detergent than Bronze or Gold. And usually, gasoline companies do market their fuels as such.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy] #3756176
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The 91 octane Shell sold here has no ethanol. All gasoline with ethanol sold in our state must have that information prominently displayed on the pump.

Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Mephy] #3756738
06/11/15 05:50 AM
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I've always been under the impression that their 93 octane (or whatever octane you have in your area) V-Power had much more additive than mid grade or regular.

Now, concerning the V-Power Nitro+, do you think that this gas is too good to put in any extra additives such as TCW3 or a FSC? I feel like there's got to be a point where too much of a good thing isn't!


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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: bandz7] #3756751
06/11/15 06:02 AM
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Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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I'm sure there's a point of diminishing returns, plus a point where it's not a good idea (i.e. a whole tank of cleaner and no fuel would be an example), but I don't think one would be at the point where tossing in a bottle of SI-1 into the new V-Power would start making it "less" of a fuel and "more" of a cleaning fluid.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: kschachn] #3756884
06/11/15 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.

Yeah, call me the same. Usually when the benefits are listed they are either vague or unmeasurable, with no supporting evidence.

I mean, I've driven cars to very high mileage and advanced age for all my driving life, and despite not using anything in the gas I still don't experience rough idle, fuel pump failures, abnormal wear, the horrors of unlubricated upper cylinders (whatever that really means), worn-out injectors or any of the supposed consequences of not using it. The OP states he gets "better combustion". Just how do you measure that?

To be fair I did once buy some Techron when I had a rough idle in my BMW, but that turned out to be a bad coil.

Just because you have used something and experienced no problems does not mean it is preventing them.


But, but, kerosene dyed red in the gas or oil is a miracle worker smile



Lack of harm is not proof of benefit.

There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates




Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: Danno] #3756963
06/11/15 10:11 AM
06/11/15 10:11 AM
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Posts: 309
Toronto
Mephy Offline OP
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Toronto
Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.


I did not say that gasoline with 10% of [censored] is better than top tier gasoline


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Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: KGMtech] #3756965
06/11/15 10:13 AM
06/11/15 10:13 AM
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Toronto
Mephy Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: KGMtech
Do your O2 sensors both send smiley faces to the ECM with your homebrew?


Guess what do you think ?


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Amsoil Interceptor/Dominator 50:50 mix 600:1 each fill up
Re: Shell V-Power NiTRO+ [Re: kschachn] #3756972
06/11/15 10:22 AM
06/11/15 10:22 AM
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Toronto
Mephy Offline OP
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Toronto
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Danno
So, burning a home brewed mixture of oil in a gasoline engine has more benefits than using a top tier, high detergent gasoline, with no ethanol and higher octane.

Call me unconvinced.

Yeah, call me the same. Usually when the benefits are listed they are either vague or unmeasurable, with no supporting evidence.

I mean, I've driven cars to very high mileage and advanced age for all my driving life, and despite not using anything in the gas I still don't experience rough idle, fuel pump failures, abnormal wear, the horrors of unlubricated upper cylinders (whatever that really means), worn-out injectors or any of the supposed consequences of not using it. The OP states he gets "better combustion". Just how do you measure that?

To be fair I did once buy some Techron when I had a rough idle in my BMW, but that turned out to be a bad coil.

Just because you have used something and experienced no problems does not mean it is preventing them.


Makes sense what you say, but I have some proof that makes me think that I have better combustion.

First of all the black carbon deposit on the exhausting pipe has gone, look yours on the BMW, most of BMW that I see have lots of carbon deposit on the exhausting pipe.


Mobil 1 0-40 European Formula
EA Amsoil oil filter
20.000 km OCI.
One bottle of PI before OCI.
Amsoil Interceptor/Dominator 50:50 mix 600:1 each fill up
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