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#3448992 - 08/07/14 03:40 PM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: buck91]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1290
Loc: Chicago, IL
Here's a somewhat common upgrade for Element reverse lights:

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/backup_bulbs.htm

The higher wattage hasn't been an issue since the reverse light is use for such a short period of time. Maybe you can do something similar on your F150?

Also, I just googled, the 912 bulb you use appears to be a 12W bulb, with the 921 bulb being a drop in at 16.8W. That might be a simple upgrade to give you a little more light.

http://www.f150online.com/forums/illumination-lighting/458857-921-bulb-912-a.html


Edited by EdwardC (08/07/14 03:41 PM)

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#3450294 - 08/09/14 01:20 AM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: EdwardC]
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Registered: 06/26/07
Posts: 368
Loc: Near Mobile
Originally Posted By: EdwardC
Here's a somewhat common upgrade for Element reverse lights:

http://www.skidmore.edu/~pdwyer/e/backup_bulbs.htm

The higher wattage hasn't been an issue since the reverse light is use for such a short period of time. Maybe you can do something similar on your F150?

Also, I just googled, the 912 bulb you use appears to be a 12W bulb, with the 921 bulb being a drop in at 16.8W. That might be a simple upgrade to give you a little more light.

http://www.f150online.com/forums/illumination-lighting/458857-921-bulb-912-a.html
Won't the bulbs output/brightness be the same since they both put out 21 MSCP ?
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#3450584 - 08/09/14 01:09 PM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: buck91]
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912 is 12.8vdc and 1.0A while the 921 is 12.8vdc and 1.4A. Should be good for roughly 100 lumens increase.

I have a new spare 921 in my parts bin I'll throw in tonight for a side by sidencomparision and let you know.
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#3451977 - 08/10/14 09:45 PM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: buck91]
earlyre Offline


Registered: 11/22/11
Posts: 3450
Loc: Lima, Ohio, USA
Originally Posted By: buck91


I've thought about the hitch lights but don't want to shell out that much coin.



how much coin are the lights you've looked at?
These are around $30.

http://www.amazon.com/Navigator-NV-803-H...ds=Hitch+Lights

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#3458487 - 08/18/14 08:09 AM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 07/11/14
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#3460834 - 08/20/14 10:27 PM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: Greasymechtech]
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Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 646
Loc: indianapolis in
Hi:
I drive a 2012 Tahoe at work, in narrow, dark areas. I clicked on your link but had some questions.
a. have you purchased from them?
b. bulb shows both 50w and 60w, depending on place in web.
c. I can't get Tahoe to come up, but I think 3157? not T-10.
D. Can I assume 60w is close to oem but the 9-1100 lumens is much higher?
e. if useable I will buy and maybe use just 1 on right, as it is a big deal at work if even a small dent. I think 1 screw in side from open rear hatch to pull assembly out?
f. $16.95 is an ok range if reliable and fits / works / improves.
Thanks.

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#3461350 - 08/21/14 01:41 PM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: buck91]
Greasymechtech Offline


Registered: 07/11/14
Posts: 1544
Loc: Paradise of Florida
I have purchased from ebay and amazon.
I don't make any recommendations on where you can purchase them. Research the sellers feedback.
Multiple sellers have the same products.

I will warn that these LED bulbs run hot and are not for continuous usage. A minute or two to back out of the driveway or parking spot is what they work best for.

921 vs new vs older fancy brand


The wattage of the LED bulbs is the equivalent halogen/incandescent output. It's a comparative lighting watt, and not watts consumed.

I have not tested the other socket sizes like 3157, but almost every bulb is available using the Cree xbd LED and should easily trump the reverse stock bulbs.
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#3464813 - 08/25/14 08:46 PM Re: Improving reverse lights [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 04/08/10
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Loc: Spokane Valley, WA
I had a similar problem on a Dodge Dakota that I put deep tint on the windows. Couldn't see squat when backing up. I ended up going to Wal-Mart and buying some clear driving lights and mounted them to the rear bumper. I think they were less than 30 bucks. Instead of wiring them to the reverse light circuit, I wired it to a switch I mounted on the dash. This let me use the lights without actually having to be in reverse. They lasted the 3 years that I kept the truck.
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