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#3453416 - 08/12/14 12:06 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: hattaresguy]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 14505
Loc: Top of Virginia
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
I suspect the NBA, NFL, NASCAR etc will eventually realize they can make more money streaming their games and charging accordingly.


Yes; I think the business model is changing rapidly. We cord-cutters will have to be mindful of the little $5/month subscriptions that are bound to become available, so we don't become like the boiled frog...

I tell folks with cable, who are afraid that there's less to watch on Netflix or Hulu, that there's so much more programming available on-demand than they could possibly watch. I watch a lot of PBS stuff on Netflix ("Secrets of [insert historical British landmark here]" is one of my favorites right now). And I watch it when it fits my schedule, I don't waste time with commercials, and I'm not tied to one device (like a TV with a cable box).

Our 5- and 8-year old kids watch and enjoy older sitcoms, like Major Dad, Brady Bunch, etc. You know...the stuff from the so-called "good old days".

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#3453417 - 08/12/14 12:07 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: ClutchDisc]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 14505
Loc: Top of Virginia
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
I have much better things to do with my time than...


I can't count how many times I've heard that said in reference to internet discussion forums... wink

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#3453444 - 08/12/14 12:24 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Loc: Onondaga County
I'm one of those 300,000!

And sure glad to be saving that $100 a month! I just bought a trailer hitch for my car with the money I saved in July.
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#3453465 - 08/12/14 12:38 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 6367
Loc: Midwest
While we were on our way to Texas last week we stopped over in Emporia Kansas for the night. As we were in the motel room I turned on the television and flipped through the channels.

The experience reaffirmed my decision not to watch television. As I scrolled through the channels the shows and commercials that I saw were just downright stupid. There may have been some content worth seeing, but wading through all the garbage to find it simply wasn't worth my time. After about 10 minutes I turned the television off, picked up my book, and relaxed.

I guess I can't be one of those "cord cutters" since I've never had a cord to cut. But seeing the amount of money some folks are willing to spend in order to be "entertained", I certainly am glad that I never became one of the mindless television watchers.

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#3453471 - 08/12/14 12:42 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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I have not turned on my home TV in four years.

I watch sports at a restaurant where I get morning coffee. That's it.
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#3453486 - 08/12/14 12:52 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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Registered: 09/23/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
We probably won't cut the TV cord until we get a cheaper internet option. Our only source uses the cell network, so its not cheap to use a lot of data.
I have to say, that a PVR makes TV pretty efficient at letting you watch what you want, when you want too, with no commercials. I rarely watch live TV anymore and if I do, often I'll pause it for 20 minutes and then watch it skipping through the commercials. We just have a basic package for $35/month so its not too bad and is a much better entertainment deal than our expensive internet.
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#3453510 - 08/12/14 01:06 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
HosteenJorje Offline


Registered: 05/26/14
Posts: 2216
Loc: Columbus,Nebraska
Newton Minow called TV, "a vast wasteland," fifty some years ago.I have over 100 channels and can't hardly find anything that makes sense to watch.

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#3453514 - 08/12/14 01:07 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: Pop_Rivit]
ClutchDisc Offline


Registered: 11/23/12
Posts: 1383
Loc: Detroit area
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
While we were on our way to Texas last week we stopped over in Emporia Kansas for the night. As we were in the motel room I turned on the television and flipped through the channels.

The experience reaffirmed my decision not to watch television. As I scrolled through the channels the shows and commercials that I saw were just downright stupid. There may have been some content worth seeing, but wading through all the garbage to find it simply wasn't worth my time. After about 10 minutes I turned the television off, picked up my book, and relaxed.

I guess I can't be one of those "cord cutters" since I've never had a cord to cut. But seeing the amount of money some folks are willing to spend in order to be "entertained", I certainly am glad that I never became one of the mindless television watchers.

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#3453521 - 08/12/14 01:10 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
Barkleymut Offline


Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 2670
Loc: Richmond, VA
One thing I hate is people that cannot do math. The census website says there are 132,802,859 housing units in the US, which means that .00229664 homes quit TV in the past quarter.
Originally Posted By: supton
Found this in the inbox today. I know the anti-TV folks like a good bash thread, this at least has some numbers in it.

http://www.ecnmag.com/news/2014/08/cultu...p;type=headline

Quote:
Fears of so-called "cord-cutting," where people drop their TV subscriptions and rely on online video services, was "surprisingly benign" in the second quarter, with just 305,000 households - less than one-tenth of a percent - quitting pay TV, according to financial advisory firm MoffettNathanson LLC.


Quote:
A Gallup poll in 1990 found 49 percent of people said they spent too much time watching television. Only 19 percent said they watched too little. Nine years ago when CBS began its annual survey, more people said they were cutting back on TV time.

This year, Nielsen estimates the average American watches four hours, 50 minutes of TV a day.


Quote:
Television continues on firm footing financially, despite the rise of digital video outlets like Netflix and YouTube. The research firm eMarketer Inc. predicted TV ad spending will hit $78.6 billion in 2018, up from $66.4 billion last year.


Edited by Barkleymut (08/12/14 01:11 PM)
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#3453523 - 08/12/14 01:11 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: Hokiefyd]
ClutchDisc Offline


Registered: 11/23/12
Posts: 1383
Loc: Detroit area
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
I have much better things to do with my time than...


I can't count how many times I've heard that said in reference to internet discussion forums... wink

I wasn't referencing Internet discussion forums.. I was referencing watching TV.
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#3453532 - 08/12/14 01:19 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 39870
Loc: New Jersey
When you look at the number of folks who keep paying ridiculous price increases, despite complaining, no wonder the entertainment/tv companies are still on good ground. Heck, Comcast built a 69 story skyscraper in Philadelphia and are apparently going to build another. So they must be doing well.

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#3453536 - 08/12/14 01:22 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: ClutchDisc]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 14505
Loc: Top of Virginia
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
I wasn't referencing Internet discussion forums.. I was referencing watching TV.


You clearly were.

My point is that we often make ourselves feel good on this forum about the choices we make in comparison to others, when others look upon us and do the same thing. It's just an observation; no more, no less (hence the "wink" smiley at the end of my post).

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#3453539 - 08/12/14 01:24 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
doitmyself Offline


Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 5740
Loc: MI
I choose to include some mindful, quality television in my weekly routine in addition to spending my time on "much more important" activities.

People read in moderation, exercise in moderation, and eat healthy in moderation. Why not quality television in moderation?

Why the "all or nothing" regarding this one aspect of life? TV expense can be managed like everything else. I know some religions dictate what people can do. I.e., dancing invokes immoral thoughts = total abstinence from dancing, while many can do it responsibly. I know some people lack will power and easily succumb to addiction, thus mandating total abstinence. Avoiding TV to compensate for a weakness is probably a good move.

I enjoy educational tv (history, nature, diy, travel, cooking,etc.). I also enjoy some entertainment tv (movies, some game shows, occasional sports).

I don't know why responsible television presents such a challenge for some people.

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#3453570 - 08/12/14 01:48 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: Barkleymut]
Burt Offline


Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 1286
Loc: texas
Originally Posted By: Barkleymut
One thing I hate is people that cannot do math. The census website says there are 132,802,859 housing units in the US, which means that .00229664 homes quit TV in the past quarter.



Agreed. When you factor in that not all homes have cable and this was only a 3 month time period, its a large drop. At $1800 per year per customer, its a loss of $540 million in one quarter.
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#3453584 - 08/12/14 02:02 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 10769
Loc: NH
Originally Posted By: Burt
Originally Posted By: Barkleymut
One thing I hate is people that cannot do math. The census website says there are 132,802,859 housing units in the US, which means that .00229664 homes quit TV in the past quarter.



Agreed. When you factor in that not all homes have cable and this was only a 3 month time period, its a large drop. At $1800 per year per customer, its a loss of $540 million in one quarter.


So around $1.2B for the year in lost subscriber revenue. But $79B in TV ads up from $66B last year? I'm not sure they are worried. Not when they just keep increasing subscription costs.

One number they didn't mention was the new subscription rate. 305k quit last quarter, but how many new people signed up? Might be more static than we think.
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