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#3414184 - 07/04/14 06:34 AM Is this oil good?
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1326
Loc: Fiume, EU
Urania FE 5W-30
IVECO 18-1804 CLASSE TFE
MACK EO-M Plus
MAN M3277, MB APPROVAL 228.5,SCANIA LDF,VOLVO VDS3,MTU OIL TYPE3
API CF
ACEAE4/E7

DENSITY....15 *C....0,860
VISCOSITY @ 100 *C....11,4
V.I.......165
FLASH POINT......220 *C
TBN......16
POUR POIN.....-55 *C
FOAM @ 24*C .....0
ACIDITY NUMBER.......2.1

What do you guys think about these numbers? Thing is i have 30 liters of this oil and would like to use it.Been using this oil in my Ford and wife's Punto.It works fine in Ford but Punto is spec'd for 5w-40 so used it alot.Can i continue to use it in Ford?
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99 FIAT Punto Sporting 16v ( Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 )
06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Shell Helix Ultra 5w40)
06 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 16V CDTI

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#3414199 - 07/04/14 07:20 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: chrisri]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 32140
Loc: Great Lakes
Looks like it has a very rich additive package, so probably not suitable for any modern diesel engine with DPF. For all other applications it should be fine.
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#3414205 - 07/04/14 07:28 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: Quattro Pete]
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1326
Loc: Fiume, EU
Thanks Quattro Pete.
Thing is this is new fuel economy 150kkm drain oil specific for new Iveco HD engines.I really didn't know what to read from this numbers.TBN looks very high and it has low pour point.
And this only API CF is a bit odd for a high end oil.Maybe bcs it isn't sold in NA?


Edited by chrisri (07/04/14 07:40 AM)
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06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Shell Helix Ultra 5w40)
06 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 16V CDTI

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#3414217 - 07/04/14 07:37 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: chrisri]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 12395
Loc: OH
I dunno.
This is a fully synthetic oil, but it carries no spark ignition rating.
This doesn't mean that the oil would be harmful, only that we have no information as to what gas engine specs it might meet.
It's intended for diesels and you don't have any.
This appears to be a recommended oil for various diesel applications in Europe.
Why not sell or trade it to someone who has an engine for which this oil's specs and certs are appropriate?
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#3414221 - 07/04/14 07:43 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: fdcg27]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 32140
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: fdcg27

It's intended for diesels and you don't have any.

Pretty sure the 1.9 Multijet in his Fiat is a diesel engine. However, I'm also pretty sure Fiat calls for a different diesel spec than what this particular oil lists.
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#3414223 - 07/04/14 07:44 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: chrisri]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 32140
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: chrisri
And this only API CF is a bit odd for a high end oil.Maybe bcs it isn't sold in NA?

Not really odd. As I mentioned, it's just targeted for older diesels. They're allowed to have higher sulfated ash content than what modern diesel engines require.

We've got oils like this in NA, too.
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#3414227 - 07/04/14 07:48 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: fdcg27]
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1326
Loc: Fiume, EU
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
I dunno.
This is a fully synthetic oil, but it carries no spark ignition rating.
This doesn't mean that the oil would be harmful, only that we have no information as to what gas engine specs it might meet.
It's intended for diesels and you don't have any.
This appears to be a recommended oil for various diesel applications in Europe.
Why not sell or trade it to someone who has an engine for which this oil's specs and certs are appropriate?


This is HDO, this is why it doesn't carrie gas spec's.But it is 150kkm drain oil so it has to be good.And can't really sell Iveco specific oil to anyone in 5w30 grade when all older trucks are rated 10w40.
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06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Shell Helix Ultra 5w40)
06 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 16V CDTI

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#3414230 - 07/04/14 07:51 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: Quattro Pete]
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1326
Loc: Fiume, EU
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: chrisri
And this only API CF is a bit odd for a high end oil.Maybe bcs it isn't sold in NA?

Not really odd. As I mentioned, it's just targeted for older diesels. They're allowed to have higher sulfated ash content than what modern diesel engines require.

We've got oils like this in NA, too.


This is NEW fuel efficient oil for NEW Iveco euro 6 engines LOL


Edited by chrisri (07/04/14 07:52 AM)
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99 FIAT Punto Sporting 16v ( Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 )
06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Shell Helix Ultra 5w40)
06 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 16V CDTI

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#3414238 - 07/04/14 07:59 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: chrisri]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 32140
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: chrisri
This is NEW fuel efficient oil for NEW Iveco euro 6 engines LOL

Heh... OK. smile

Do you know the details behind this IVECO 18-1804 CLASSE TFE specification? Maybe this new Iveco euro 6 engine does not have a DPF, and hence such heavily additized oil is OK for it.

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#3414239 - 07/04/14 07:59 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: Quattro Pete]
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1326
Loc: Fiume, EU
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: fdcg27

It's intended for diesels and you don't have any.

Pretty sure the 1.9 Multijet in his Fiat is a diesel engine. However, I'm also pretty sure Fiat calls for a different diesel spec than what this particular oil lists.


I have no intention to use this oil in Multijet or wife's Punto.Only in old Escort.So summa summarum: this is a high ash,strong pack oil suitable for older petrol and diesel engines.
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99 FIAT Punto Sporting 16v ( Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 )
06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Shell Helix Ultra 5w40)
06 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 16V CDTI

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#3414243 - 07/04/14 08:02 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: Quattro Pete]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 12395
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: fdcg27

It's intended for diesels and you don't have any.

Pretty sure the 1.9 Multijet in his Fiat is a diesel engine. However, I'm also pretty sure Fiat calls for a different diesel spec than what this particular oil lists.


You're right.
It looks like a neat little car that Fiat should offer here as a competitor to the TDI VWs.
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09 Forester 67K PU 5W-30
02 Accord 144K GOil 5W-30
01 Focus ZX3 112K M1 5W-20
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#3414244 - 07/04/14 08:02 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: Quattro Pete]
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1326
Loc: Fiume, EU
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: chrisri
This is NEW fuel efficient oil for NEW Iveco euro 6 engines LOL

Heh... OK. smile

Do you know the details behind this IVECO 18-1804 CLASSE TFE specification?


From what i can find only odd is drain interval of 150kkm.,and usual stuff like increased economy and so.
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99 FIAT Punto Sporting 16v ( Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 )
06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Shell Helix Ultra 5w40)
06 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 16V CDTI

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#3414247 - 07/04/14 08:04 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: chrisri]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 12395
Loc: OH
How did you happen to come by this oil?
It would have to be fairly costly anywhere in the EU.
Someone within a reasonable distance of you could surely use an oil meeting the certs this one carries.
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12 Accord LX 53K HGMO 0W-20
09 Forester 67K PU 5W-30
02 Accord 144K GOil 5W-30
01 Focus ZX3 112K M1 5W-20
95 BMW 318iC 159K Delvac 15W-40

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#3414256 - 07/04/14 08:20 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: fdcg27]
chrisri Offline


Registered: 06/01/14
Posts: 1326
Loc: Fiume, EU
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
How did you happen to come by this oil?
It would have to be fairly costly anywhere in the EU.
Someone within a reasonable distance of you could surely use an oil meeting the certs this one carries.


Yes Selenia and Urania oils are very costly but are considered to be among the best.This oil was a gift from old friend of mine,some leftover let's say.And you are right,Fiat should bring some more serious cars to NA then 500.A second series Croma 200hp diesel would work great there.
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99 FIAT Punto Sporting 16v ( Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 )
06 FIAT Stilo MW 1.9 Multijet (Shell Helix Ultra 5w40)
06 Opel Vectra SW 1.9 16V CDTI

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#3414262 - 07/04/14 08:24 AM Re: Is this oil good? [Re: chrisri]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 32140
Loc: Great Lakes
They've been talking about bringing Alfa Romeo back to the States, but I've heard these talks for 10 years now and still nothing. smile
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'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)

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