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#3393344 - 06/09/14 07:17 PM Are you a Biker or Rider???
BusyLittleShop Offline


Registered: 12/09/11
Posts: 726
Loc: Ca USA


My definition of Biker or Rider is simple and its broken down into a percentile you have
mastered of your motorcycle's ability regardless of the type of bike you choose... so
skill of riding matters more than type of bike...


49% Bikers have mastered 49% of their motorcycle's ability and bring
their environment to the riding experience...

51% Riders have mastered 51% and above of their motorcycle's ability
and their experience are defined by the environment...

Bikers bring coolness... we all like cool people who nether hope nor
fear too much... who stand slander very well... whom current events
make little or no impression... they are convinced beyond a doubt that
they are right... who will face death with firmness as trees and
animals do...

Riders test coolness... keep your wits over the most demanding
situation... it is by presence of mind in untried emergencies that the
metal of a rider is tested... if you keep your head when all about are
losing theirs... it's possible you have really grasp the situation
more than just grasping handle bars...

Bikers bring comfort... from a easy chair / foots stool to a bike...
forward controls is a logically choice... their bodies lust for
comfort but in a vanity sort of way... being unaware comfortably...

Riders... comfort is a superfluous thing... a softness that will steal
into your life and become the master... being comfortably aware that
luxury consumes more than it produces...

Bikers... mind not how well you ride... but how well they look at
riding... people can say what they will about riding but they cannot
ride just as they will... their looks frequently reveal what their
words are calculated to conceal... relying on a persona which is meant
to suggest that they are not looking for trouble but would just as
soon toss a gesture your way as not...

Riders... are a loose knit group who have mastered 51% or better of
their motorcycles ability... they don't care how much a person talks
about their riding... if... they will only say it in a few words...

Bikers bring together heart for others in their own community...
always made up for the individuals who bond together by locking
themselves in by locking others out... the road to their door is
narrow but the gate... once accepted... is wide...

Rider's will may become perverse in quickness... lust may grow from
it... give into the lust and habit is born... fail resisting the habit
and it becomes a necessity... like links to a chain... it's a force
holding them fast as slaves...
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#3393353 - 06/09/14 07:29 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
Tegger Offline


Registered: 03/20/06
Posts: 2263
Loc: Canada
If your motorcycle has a radio, are you a Biker or a Rider?
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#3393360 - 06/09/14 07:34 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: Tegger]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 6567
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: Tegger
If your motorcycle has a radio, are you a Biker or a Rider?
My guess would be "biker"-and if you ride wheelies on your crotch rocket going by me at 70 on a busy interstate-you'd be a "rider"!
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#3393362 - 06/09/14 07:37 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
toneydoc Offline


Registered: 12/16/11
Posts: 1569
Loc: War Eagle
Interesting thoughts

Some of us enjoy the motorcycle and enjoy the ride. Our ride is the destination.

Don't know what I am. I hardly ride like I used to. In the past I would ride 20k miles a year but now I have slowed down and only ride about 10k miles a year. I really need to get back in the saddle and ride some more. Maybe I will get on a trip to Colorado soon. Really love that state. And New Mexico.

I don't know what I am. Don't worry much about my looks. Just like to ride and the friendships that come out of it.

I think I will go for a 3 day cruise and contemplate life soon.

Thanks
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#3393374 - 06/09/14 07:46 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: bullwinkle]
Trajan Offline


Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 3730
Loc: SE PA
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Originally Posted By: Tegger
If your motorcycle has a radio, are you a Biker or a Rider?
My guess would be "biker"-and if you ride wheelies on your crotch rocket going by me at 70 on a busy interstate-you'd be a "rider"!


Or an organ donor.
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#3393388 - 06/09/14 08:01 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
02SE Offline


Registered: 12/30/05
Posts: 1623
Loc: The Canyons
I am a Motorcyclist. I've ridden a variety of Motorcycles on dirt trails to Roadracing tracks, and all kinds of roads in-between. I choose to live a life painted in bright, bold colors, and amazing experiences. Not huddled at home living a drab, gray existence, afraid to enjoy life.

I'm also a registered Organ Donor, as noted on my Drivers License. The life saved by a registered Organ Donor, may be your own or that of someone you love.

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#3393397 - 06/09/14 08:08 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 15196
Loc: apple valley, ca
i ride a dual sport.i have the option of dirt,street and anything in between. its definatly easier to ride up a curb or over a lawn when a car merges you out of your lane on a ds bike than a harley or sport bike
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#3393446 - 06/09/14 08:53 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
mrvrsick Offline


Registered: 06/08/14
Posts: 14
Loc: California, USA
I don't know about all the other stuff, but I can say that I doubt I've MASTERED more than 50% of my R6's ability...

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#3393462 - 06/09/14 09:03 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
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Registered: 05/30/10
Posts: 7407
Loc: North Carolina
I ride to work on my 250, i ride it for errands such as home depot and small grocery items. My bike has a really hard seat , i can only stand an hour on it. I do like that it is simple has no gauges other that speed distance.I understand some people put cell phone holders on their bikes! I'm not sure where i fit in, some say a 250 is not a bike .


Edited by spasm3 (06/09/14 09:03 PM)
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#3393464 - 06/09/14 09:06 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: mrvrsick]
DB_Cooper Offline


Registered: 10/01/07
Posts: 377
Loc: Ga
I have no clue, biker or rider? I've been riding for over 40 years. I've had many bikes. Still ride the old racer from the 70s. Maybe I'm a motorcyclist?


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#3393498 - 06/09/14 09:39 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: DB_Cooper]
4wheeldog Offline


Registered: 04/23/12
Posts: 1454
Loc: East Mountains, NM
I consider myself to be a motorcyclist, after 46 years of riding. "Biker" means a whole other thing, in my mind.

My wife makes rugs by installing narrow strips of wool on a backing, with a hook. This is called "Rug hooking".

A friend of mine takes great pleasure in introducing us as "The Biker and his Hooker wife."

I could hurt him......But it would just feed his fantasy.

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#3393546 - 06/09/14 10:35 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
29662 Offline


Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 524
Loc: sc/fl
I'm a rider.

I ride because there is nothing like it in the world.

I ride because the sound of a well tuned engine spinning north of 10,000 RPM is music to my ears.

I ride because for me the journey is the destination.

I ride because I love to ride!!!

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#3393720 - 06/10/14 07:35 AM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 33831
Loc: Great Lakes
I don't like to be categorized using subjective terminology.
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#3393822 - 06/10/14 09:53 AM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: Quattro Pete]
ddrumman2004 Offline


Registered: 11/16/04
Posts: 1003
Loc: Mississippi
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
I don't like to be categorized using subjective terminology.


Me either. I have a motorcycle I get on and "drive" from time to time.....just like I do with my truck. Except I get in the truck and drive it.

Regardless of what type of motorcycle you drive.....respect it for what it can do. Same applies to any other vehicle.
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#3393877 - 06/10/14 11:04 AM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
sunruh Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 1856
Loc: Cedar Park, TX
D none of the above

i am a RACER!
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#3394064 - 06/10/14 02:37 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
rossn2 Offline


Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 406
Loc: Ft Hood Texas area
I always thought a Rider was my passenger???
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#3394357 - 06/10/14 09:06 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
LoneRanger Offline


Registered: 07/02/07
Posts: 2898
Loc: Midwest USA
Rider.
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#3394369 - 06/10/14 09:18 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
Joe_Power Offline


Registered: 04/18/13
Posts: 643
Loc: USA - Coast to Coast, Border t...
You tell me. I have over 200K miles on several motorcycles, from my first, a 1979 HD Wideglide, to what I'm currently on, a 2011 HD Streetglide. Been coast to coast, Canada, The Keys, Cali to Maine. Also have been on countless poker runs and day trips.
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#3394453 - 06/10/14 11:32 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
feliz Offline


Registered: 12/29/03
Posts: 9
Loc: Vancouver Canada
That's too much thinking!! I have four bikes, ride because I enjoy motorcycles and riding them. I avoid Starbucks and could care less what I look like. I have never bought anything Joe Rocket or Icon. I have a dual sport and as an earlier poster said, they're the funnest.
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#3394585 - 06/11/14 07:33 AM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
kmrcstintn Offline


Registered: 05/11/06
Posts: 504
Loc: Palmyra, PA
I'll nibble a bit...

I've only been riding since mid-2011...scooter, first, interjecting motorcycle, then more motorcycle with some scooter, and currently motorcycle only; I'm no biker...i'm no scooterist...I'm a rider (as in I enjoy riding without the stereotypical labeling that is associated with the different subgroups)
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#3394873 - 06/11/14 02:32 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: sunruh]
williestreet Offline


Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 34
Loc: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Originally Posted By: sunruh
D none of the above

i am a RACER!


+1
I have had Sportbikes, cruisers, a Harley, BMW's, Dualsports,MX bikes over the last 25 years and wouldn't call myself a biker or rider. Don't really care what someone else wants to call me.

After I started Roadracing 12 years ago the only street riding I do is commuting to work on my KLR. I don't think I have taken a pleasure ride in the last two or three years.

The only thing I want to be called, is to the Podium smile

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#3395343 - 06/12/14 06:27 AM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
Smoky14 Offline


Registered: 04/23/03
Posts: 1255
Loc: Nowhere NM
I'm a motorcycle enthusiast. Have been since 1950.

Smoky
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#3395463 - 06/12/14 09:10 AM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
gman2304 Offline


Registered: 08/11/11
Posts: 2205
Loc: n.c.
Enthusiast. If it has two wheels...it has my attention.

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#3395738 - 06/12/14 02:13 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
john_pifer Offline


Registered: 07/08/12
Posts: 1345
Loc: Nashville, TN via Memphis
I know a rider when I see one, and I know a non-rider when I see him, too
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#3397052 - 06/13/14 10:44 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 3512
Loc: Port Orange, Florida
I think the big difference is if you know about the motorcycle and how it works or do you just sit on it and when it stops, do you call somebody to come fix it. I am in "costume" capital of Daytona Beach. I see a lot of Bikers cant even change their oil and the chain thingy-yuk? I am a rider.
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#3407061 - 06/25/14 09:02 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: 02SE]
OtisBlkR1 Offline


Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 3219
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: 02SE
I am a Motorcyclist. I've ridden a variety of Motorcycles on dirt trails to Roadracing tracks, and all kinds of roads in-between. I choose to live a life painted in bright, bold colors, and amazing experiences. Not huddled at home living a drab, gray existence, afraid to enjoy life.

I'm also a registered Organ Donor, as noted on my Drivers License. The life saved by a registered Organ Donor, may be your own or that of someone you love.


well said +1
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#3407119 - 06/25/14 09:55 PM Re: Are you a Biker or Rider??? [Re: BusyLittleShop]
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Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 6126
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
I'm 50, first dirt bike at 7. Been a dirt rider ever since. It's my first love. I also have a SV1000s Suzuki that I occasionally ride. Still more interested in the dirt bike stuff. My current bike is a KTM 380EXC with tag! What fun!!!

Does that make me a true filthy biker? Yes, I think it does...

As for the HD brand, not for me, unless it's a Buell Ulysses.
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