Recent Topics
1995 Chevy 5.0 TBI Oil
by WA1DH
10/18/17 09:54 PM
Im starting TCW3 Oil in my fuel
by Emanuel
10/18/17 09:17 PM
Anyone have experience with ZZ Performance?
by clinebarger
10/18/17 09:08 PM
Computer Case for Gear Heads!
by StevieC
10/18/17 08:58 PM
1993 K1500 TBI stumbling/surging
by BrianF
10/18/17 08:51 PM
Tractor hydraulics...
by Chris142
10/18/17 07:52 PM
Bosch D+, 9123 miles cut open
by koffy
10/18/17 07:47 PM
Spinning an engine
by OneEyeJack
10/18/17 07:42 PM
Purolator 14612 jobber 3946 miles cut open
by koffy
10/18/17 07:38 PM
Replace timing chain or no?
by dlundblad
10/18/17 07:22 PM
Harbor Freight Type Generator Carb Adjust
by picman
10/18/17 07:22 PM
Edge, Magnatec, Platinum (Dex1Gen2)
by wemay
10/18/17 07:15 PM
Getting tired of telemarketing scams...
by ZZman
10/18/17 07:14 PM
2013 Ford Fiesta 15,000 mile OCI
by harboz
10/18/17 06:36 PM
Sulfated ash and carbon deposits...
by d00df00d
10/18/17 05:43 PM
Honda 1.5T
by Danh
10/18/17 04:27 PM
PROTUNE #AIO22500 150~ miles CUT OPEN
by car51
10/18/17 04:13 PM
EVAP emissions monitor not ready
by mclasser
10/18/17 02:54 PM
2018 Chevy Silverado or 2018 Toyota 4 Runner
by zfasts03
10/18/17 02:52 PM
My car has been sitting for a year
by llmercll
10/18/17 02:07 PM
Newest Members
Bieben, djslikrick, Route_66, Coltman, root
63154 Registered Users
Who's Online
69 registered (4WD, andyd, 2strokeNorthstar, askani79705, ATex7239, Bandito440, 4 invisible), 1679 Guests and 17 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
63154 Members
66 Forums
272448 Topics
4522749 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#3383555 - 05/28/14 09:36 PM Could T6 be the best oil out there
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 19314
Loc: Upstate NY
I will post my UOA numbers tomorrow but I just dumped the T6 in my Cummins diesel at over 18K. Almost no change from 11K when I just sampled and no change (iron went from 19 to 26). The TBN was 5.86 (no change from 11K). Viscosity 14.6 cSt @ 100C.

I'll give 1/3 of the credit to Cummins making a great engine and 2/3 to the T6 oil. I will cut open the Bosch D+ filter, it went the 18K.
_________________________
2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)


Top
#3383563 - 05/28/14 09:46 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
yvon_la Offline


Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 1429
Loc: quebec canada
t6 0w40 is probably the best oil(I believe shell changed the formula a bit to meet the extreme)is there a voa of the 0w40 variety?
_________________________
Truck driver
Nissan versa note s 2014 total classic 5w30(qc.ca) drivework oil filter

Top
#3383591 - 05/28/14 10:24 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
Bandito440 Online   content


Registered: 02/13/12
Posts: 3745
Loc: NYS
T6 0w-40 hasn't been seen in the U.S. yet as far as I know.

I'm fond of the 5w-40 too. I've used it in all sorts of motors with good success. Maybe I'll put it in the Forester one day to see if there's any noticeable difference in fuel economy... and it'll give BITOG something to panic about.

Seriously though, shouldn't you be putting 0w-20 in that Cummins? :-)
_________________________
'14 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel
Rotella T6 5w-40 & OEM filter

Top
#3383593 - 05/28/14 10:25 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
440Magnum Offline


Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 8651
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Donald
I will post my UOA numbers tomorrow but I just dumped the T6 in my Cummins diesel at over 18K. Almost no change from 11K when I just sampled and no change (iron went from 19 to 26). The TBN was 5.86 (no change from 11K). Viscosity 14.6 cSt @ 100C.

I'll give 1/3 of the credit to Cummins making a great engine and 2/3 to the T6 oil. I will cut open the Bosch D+ filter, it went the 18K.


T6 is definitely some good stuff. If I remember correctly it was one of the first applications for SOPUS' XHVI base oil, but I haven't kept up with its latest iterations.
_________________________
'66 Dodge Polara & '69 Dodge Coronet R/T both 440/727
'08 Ram 1500 4.7/545RFE
'12 Challenger SRT8 392/6-speed
'99 XJ 4x4 4.0/AX15, '14 WK2 4x4 3.6/8HP

Top
#3383646 - 05/28/14 11:54 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
SilverC6 Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
Posts: 2917
Loc: Southeast
T6 is the stuff.

It's certainly the best oil for a RAM Cummins.

My 2013 RAM 3500 does well on it.
_________________________
'10 & '11 Camry 0W-20 PP
'11 Landcruiser 5W30 PP
'13 BMW 550IX Castrol 0W40
'08 BMW Z4M Coupe TWS 10W60
'13 BMW M6 BMW 5W30

Top
#3383706 - 05/29/14 06:09 AM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: SilverC6]
BISCUT Offline


Registered: 12/28/11
Posts: 1868
Loc: NewYorkistan
My Quad agrees.....:))
_________________________
2015 F150 Lariat M1 0-20 FRAM U(22k)
2017 Sub OB M1 5-30 FRAM U(15k)



Top
#3383721 - 05/29/14 07:04 AM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 40398
Loc: New Jersey
No, its fake synthetic stealing dollars out of your pocket for some black, dino crude that they lie to you about. How could you ever put that stuff in your engine when its no different than Grp I base? Your engine just wont last unless it has PAO and POE because fake synthtic is just no good.

LOL

wink

P.S. Im liking the chevron Delo 5w-40 as well.

Top
#3383722 - 05/29/14 07:08 AM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
KD0AXS Offline


Registered: 11/13/12
Posts: 2312
Loc: Nowthen, MN
I don't own anything with a diesel engine, but I run T6 in all my OPE and ATVs. If I had a diesel engine, it would probably have T6 in it.
_________________________
2014 Hyundai Elantra Coupe 2.0 GDI-PUP 0W-40
2013 Jeep Wrangler JKU-PUP 5W-20
2005 Ford F-350 4x4 5.4-Maxlife 5W-20
2000 John Deere 425-Rotella T6

Top
#3383866 - 05/29/14 10:55 AM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
yvon_la Offline


Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 1429
Loc: quebec canada
grou 4 oil that are good are rare,i aint even sure if the delvac1 le 5w30 is a group 4 oil(my favorite)
_________________________
Truck driver
Nissan versa note s 2014 total classic 5w30(qc.ca) drivework oil filter

Top
#3383979 - 05/29/14 01:54 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: KD0AXS]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 19314
Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
I don't own anything with a diesel engine, but I run T6 in all my OPE and ATVs. If I had a diesel engine, it would probably have T6 in it.


Its not any diesel engine. Its a Cummins.
_________________________
2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)


Top
#3384111 - 05/29/14 04:46 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: JHZR2]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 22387
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Your engine just wont last unless it has PAO and POE because fake synthtic is just no good.

LOL

wink

P.S. Im liking the chevron Delo 5w-40 as well.

Now that you mention it, Chevron's testing of the Rotella did indicate some PAO content, but not as much as in Delvac 1. So, that lets me be a snob, even though it doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. wink
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Wix 57356
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top
#3384126 - 05/29/14 04:56 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: yvon_la]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 9783
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
I don't own anything with a diesel engine, but I run T6 in all my OPE and ATVs. If I had a diesel engine, it would probably have T6 in it.



The conventional 15w-40 is more shear resistant and far superior in my testing of it in shared sump equipment,unless trying to extend the intervals to the extreme.

Originally Posted By: yvon_la
grou 4 oil that are good are rare,i aint even sure if the delvac1 le 5w30 is a group 4 oil(my favorite)



Co-op here has a pao formulated 0w-40 for 28 a gallon. It's the best dollar for dollar diesel oil out there.
It's basically slightly more costly than conventional but is almost 100% pao. I think it's only got enough group 2 to attain additive solubility.
Iirc it's got a pour point of -68.
And 5 gallon pails are cheap.
_________________________
2006 Charger RT
Miles x 2 per oil filter

Top
#3385420 - 05/31/14 07:12 AM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 14481
Loc: OH
Although we have no good comparisons, I'd say that T6 works very well in your truck's engine.
The UOA you posted is amazing given the miles run.
TBN is still strong with no adds and none of the wear metals look to be out of line.
How much oil does this Cummins hold?
Whatever, you certainly got your money's worth out of it.
_________________________
17 Forester FF
12 Accord LX 69K SS 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 BMW 318i 163K D1300

Top
#3386145 - 06/01/14 09:13 AM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
ShieldArc Offline


Registered: 03/16/13
Posts: 16
Loc: Ne
I remember in the 1990's a company here with Dodge Cummins pickups going 50k oil changes using LE 15w-40. They also used LE 10w-30 in the manual tranny's to save the bearings. Just saying....

Top
#3386149 - 06/01/14 09:19 AM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 6826
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
I've had TDT in my '06 in my sig since 2011-the SAME OIL! I don't run many miles, but other than replacing a filter every 18 months or so & topping it off, the UOAs are still coming back "OK for continued use". The '02 HO 5.9 I had before this one (similar to the OP) was even easier on oil than the '06, would take 7-8K to even start to turn black! Now if the rest of the truck was as good...
_________________________
06 Ram 3500 CTD 4X4(FG Venturi), 93 GMC C3500 6.2, 89 F-450 7.3, 98 XJ 4.0(XG8A), 05 xB(XG3600), 15 Transit 3.7, 03 Merc Grand Marquis 4.6 2V(XG2)

Top
#3386342 - 06/01/14 03:10 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
yvon_la Offline


Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 1429
Loc: quebec canada
you have more chance of having problem of dust then problem of oil!
_________________________
Truck driver
Nissan versa note s 2014 total classic 5w30(qc.ca) drivework oil filter

Top
#3386372 - 06/01/14 03:52 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
LoneRanger Offline


Registered: 07/02/07
Posts: 3408
Loc: Midwest USA
Use to use it in the 5W40 flavor for 10K oci's my late wife's 2005 Volkswagen TDI instead of the 505.01 VW oil. The car ran really strong on it (for a 1.9L 50mpg turbo-diesel, lol).
_________________________

'09 Subaru Forester ...................(QSED DEXOS1 5W30)
'16 Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 .....(Factory fill)

Top
#3396884 - 06/13/14 07:01 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: JHZR2]
Redline Offline


Registered: 12/21/06
Posts: 1
Loc: Nevada
Originally Posted By: JHZR2


P.S. Im liking the chevron Delo 5w-40 as well.


Nice, I'm looking for info and opinions here on that oil in a new 6.7 Cummins.

I'm already using the Delo 400 5w-40 in a couple other rigs, so using it a new Cummins is convenient.

Top
#3397020 - 06/13/14 09:55 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: fdcg27]
SilverC6 Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
Posts: 2917
Loc: Southeast
Originally Posted By: fdcg27


How much oil does this Cummins hold?


Three gallons is standard on the 6.7 liter.

I believe the OP's 5.9 has the same oil capacity.
_________________________
'10 & '11 Camry 0W-20 PP
'11 Landcruiser 5W30 PP
'13 BMW 550IX Castrol 0W40
'08 BMW Z4M Coupe TWS 10W60
'13 BMW M6 BMW 5W30

Top
#3398195 - 06/15/14 01:46 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
TiredTrucker Offline


Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 3165
Loc: Central Iowa
Can't intelligently speak to the Rotella, but I was using the Delo 5w40 in my Detroit 60 and got some unexplained shearing going on. Viscosity was dropping to a 30 wt in normal OEM intervals. Since then, I went over to the Schaeffer 9000 and do not get the shearing and am able to almost double the OEM recommended drain intervals.

Have no explanation why the Delo was shearing. One of life's little mysteries. But I get the Schaeffer delivered to my door, complete with free oil sample kits and analysis, for the same price I was getting the Delo at wally world.
_________________________
Freedom is not about having the choice to do what you want, but the choice to do what you ought.

Top
#3449000 - 08/07/14 03:47 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Clevy]
Johnny248 Offline


Registered: 07/19/09
Posts: 2050
Loc: Detroit, MI
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
I don't own anything with a diesel engine, but I run T6 in all my OPE and ATVs. If I had a diesel engine, it would probably have T6 in it.



The conventional 15w-40 is more shear resistant and far superior in my testing of it in shared sump equipment,unless trying to extend the intervals to the extreme.

Originally Posted By: yvon_la
grou 4 oil that are good are rare,i aint even sure if the delvac1 le 5w30 is a group 4 oil(my favorite)



Co-op here has a pao formulated 0w-40 for 28 a gallon. It's the best dollar for dollar diesel oil out there.
It's basically slightly more costly than conventional but is almost 100% pao. I think it's only got enough group 2 to attain additive solubility.
Iirc it's got a pour point of -68.

What is it?
And 5 gallon pails are cheap.
_________________________
'11 Ram 1500 5.7L
'08 Beetle 2.5L
'04 Mini Cooper S JCW 1.6L


Top
#3449124 - 08/07/14 06:28 PM Re: Could T6 be the best oil out there [Re: Donald]
wsar10 Offline


Registered: 04/11/11
Posts: 676
Loc: PA
I use Rotella everywhere I can, mostly T5 but I use the T6 in my fourwheer's. I am currently trying to justify using it in our 06 Explorer......I wish there was a UOA out there with this oil in 4.0 V6 ford motor.
_________________________
98 JEEP ZJ, 5.2 T5,WIX
03 Jeep WJ, the famous 4.0 T6,WIX
93 Jeep XJ, the famous 4.0 T5,WIX
07 Explorer, 4.0 GC 0-40,WIX
12 KIA Sorento, 3.5 PP 5-30,WIX

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >