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#3382407 - 05/27/14 07:50 PM Harley Sporty 883 Oil?
rvt Offline


Registered: 11/24/12
Posts: 62
Loc: southern CA
Hello I just bought a used '12 Sportster 883 with 9K miles on it. Evidently these engines are durable and have two chambers for oil. Engine and transmission/chain if I'm not mistaken. I live in southern CA at lower elevation. My driving will be mostly suburban roads up to 60 MPH. Not much long sustained freeway driving or hard mountain driving. Weather can get into 90s here. Annual mileage probably less than 5K.

Suggestions for oil would be welcome. I'd prefer off the shelf from Walmart, Autozone, etc if possible but Harley dealer is fairly convenient if necessary.

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#3382413 - 05/27/14 07:54 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
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What does the manual recommend?
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#3382419 - 05/27/14 07:58 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
rvt Offline


Registered: 11/24/12
Posts: 62
Loc: southern CA
Just bought it, haven't picked up the bike or the manual yet. Thought I'd do a little pre study on here tonight smile

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#3382432 - 05/27/14 08:07 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
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Edited by simple_gifts (05/27/14 08:08 PM)
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#3382439 - 05/27/14 08:14 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
yvon_la Offline


Registered: 05/20/14
Posts: 1429
Loc: quebec canada
I would follow what the previous poster link say!it look very detailed !
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#3382447 - 05/27/14 08:20 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
rvt Offline


Registered: 11/24/12
Posts: 62
Loc: southern CA
Thanks for the link, reading it and bookmarked.

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#3382450 - 05/27/14 08:22 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
BusyLittleShop Offline


Registered: 12/09/11
Posts: 726
Loc: Ca USA
According to the manual any multi grade 40 will meet or exceed
your mileage expectations... that means at Walmart any multi grade
10W 40 or 5W 40 or 0 W40 is in accordance with Harley's
engineering that designed the engine...
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#3382481 - 05/27/14 08:54 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
29662 Offline


Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 524
Loc: sc/fl
Rotella (15w-40 or t6), Delo, Delvac, would all work just fine. I also know a couple of guys who absolutely swear by Mobil 1 15W-50 in their Harley's. You didn't make it sound as though you were really going to push it so any of those Wally world oil's should do just fine in your scooter.

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#3382484 - 05/27/14 08:58 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
rvt Offline


Registered: 11/24/12
Posts: 62
Loc: southern CA
Sounds good. I don't ride hard anymore. The only issue is my house is at 1200 ft. and generally a tailwind up the hill in the summer. Speeds are at least 45 though.

The transmission spec is for "FORMULA+ TRANSMISSION AND PRIMARY CHAINCASE LUBRICANT" Is there an off the shelf equivalent? I'm still reading so maybe I haven't come to it yet.

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#3382499 - 05/27/14 09:08 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
Fluids Offline


Registered: 05/15/13
Posts: 30
Loc: Ontario
Use Rotella T 15w-40. Cheap and great for bikes.

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#3382503 - 05/27/14 09:13 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
Robenstein Offline


Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 5506
Loc: Central IA
Valvoline VR1 or Kendall GT1 in 20w50. UOA's show that they return some of the best wear numbers in hot running harley engines. You are in a hotter climate in SoCal, and being a 2012 it is fuel injected and if not modified, the fuel injection HD's tend to run on the lean side which means they run hotter.

In the cooler months you can run Rotella 5w40 o5 15w40.
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#3382510 - 05/27/14 09:21 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
qrtsteve Offline


Registered: 01/18/10
Posts: 12
Loc: Southern California
I have a 2011 Sporty 883 which just turned 48,000 miles. I commute 85 miles a day in SoCal at freeway speeds. I have used Amsoil 20w50 since first oil change at 500 miles. Bike runs like new

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#3382521 - 05/27/14 09:32 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: qrtsteve]
rvt Offline


Registered: 11/24/12
Posts: 62
Loc: southern CA
Originally Posted By: qrtsteve
I have a 2011 Sporty 883 which just turned 48,000 miles. I commute 85 miles a day in SoCal at freeway speeds. I have used Amsoil 20w50 since first oil change at 500 miles. Bike runs like new


Good to hear about some serious miles.. Evidently the Evolution engine is very sturdy. What are you running in the transmission/chain area?

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#3382540 - 05/27/14 09:53 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
qrtsteve Offline


Registered: 01/18/10
Posts: 12
Loc: Southern California
Using Amsoil 20w50 in primary / transmission also

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#3382602 - 05/27/14 11:10 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
Robenstein Offline


Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 5506
Loc: Central IA
Originally Posted By: rvt
Originally Posted By: qrtsteve
I have a 2011 Sporty 883 which just turned 48,000 miles. I commute 85 miles a day in SoCal at freeway speeds. I have used Amsoil 20w50 since first oil change at 500 miles. Bike runs like new


Good to hear about some serious miles.. Evidently the Evolution engine is very sturdy. What are you running in the transmission/chain area?


The Evo engine is incredibly reliable and stout. For its displacement it is understressed at about 50hp.
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#3382623 - 05/27/14 11:47 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
BusyLittleShop Offline


Registered: 12/09/11
Posts: 726
Loc: Ca USA
Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) on the Harley Davidson SYN-3,
as filed with the Federal Government. Manufactured by Citgo
Petroleum. $8.25/qt 60/40 Synthetic Blend

Component
CAS #
Concentration

(1) 1-Decene Homopolymer, hydrogenated
68037-01-4
50% - 70%

(2) Proprietary Ingredients
Proprietary Mixture
1% - 10%

(3) Polyisobutylene
9003-27-4
1% - 10%

(4) Distillates, Petroleum, Hydrotreated Heavy Paraffinic
64742-54-7
0% - 20%

(5) Distillates, Petroleum, Solvent-Refined Heavy Paraffinic
64741-88-4
0% - 20%

(6) Zinc Alkyldithiophosphate
68649-42-3
0% - 2%




Edited by BusyLittleShop (05/27/14 11:53 PM)
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#3382639 - 05/28/14 12:44 AM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
29662 Offline


Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 524
Loc: sc/fl
I would never have guessed that the SYN3 is primarily a PAO formulation. I wouldn't touch it just because it's made by CITGO though. But that's just me.

Good find BLS.


Edited by 29662 (05/28/14 12:45 AM)

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#3382892 - 05/28/14 09:24 AM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 2007
Loc: Deep in the heart of Jersey
All that great info ,but still no API symbol that states it HAS been tested to any standard.,,

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#3383766 - 05/29/14 08:27 AM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: BigCahuna]
rossn2 Offline


Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 406
Loc: Ft Hood Texas area
Most motorcycle oils do not have the API symbol. It's too small a market for the maufacturers to pay for the API testing..
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#3383900 - 05/29/14 11:48 AM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 2007
Loc: Deep in the heart of Jersey
I haven't seen any that do. So why don't they have a problem with charging up to $15 a qt for their "special" oil?.,,

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#3384025 - 05/29/14 02:59 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
splineman Offline


Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 81
Loc: New Zealand
I am another user of 15W-40 (Mobil Delvac MX), also had UOA done on this oil with great results.
My riding is never above about 85F in the summer and down to around 35F in the winter. Not overly hot.
In the transmission I have used in the past Redline, too expensive but good, Formula + good and the Delvac also good.

37k miles on my engine.

If I were you in SoCal I would use 20W-50 grade.

Cheers



Edited by splineman (05/29/14 03:01 PM)
Edit Reason: mileage detail
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#3384222 - 05/29/14 06:46 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
Errtt Offline


Registered: 11/14/10
Posts: 2623
Loc: California
On my oldest bike (97 1200 Sportster w/mods) I been using Amsoil 20-50 both holes, year-round.
But once my stash is used up, I'll be trying VR1. Will see then how it goes. I've heard from some very satisfied VR1 users.

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#3397722 - 06/14/14 09:33 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
rvt Offline


Registered: 11/24/12
Posts: 62
Loc: southern CA
Thanks guys. I'll probably be using M1 15-50.

I've been all over the internet looking at this. Now that I have my owners manual, I want to point out one thing I've noticed that is a bit contrary to much popular discussion.

I can see no indication that there are any maximum temperature specs for any of the recommended oils. Including 15W40 with a diesel spec. The chart only refers to minimum temp specs for the oil.


Edited by rvt (06/14/14 09:35 PM)

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#3397728 - 06/14/14 09:47 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
xl2006 Offline


Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 38
Loc: mississippi
Mobile 1 v-twin 20/50 is what many use. Valvoline 20/50 4-stroke is good too. I wouldn't use 40wt. Unless it gets below 40 50 degrees where you live, you can run 20/ 50 weight year round. Go join xl forum.com . Sportster gurus live there.

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#3398060 - 06/15/14 09:57 AM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
Silverado12 Offline


Registered: 02/26/13
Posts: 2425
Loc: Central Virginia
I used H-D Sport Trans fluid when I had my Sportster, but that was 25 years ago.
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#3399896 - 06/17/14 03:18 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: rvt]
cbear Offline


Registered: 12/08/09
Posts: 426
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
For my 2001 I like Syn3 for the transmission and Mobil 1 V-Twin for the engine. I tried the Mobil 1 V-Twin, for the trans, but shifting got rougher.
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#3400177 - 06/17/14 10:11 PM Re: Harley Sporty 883 Oil? [Re: Silverado12]
xl2006 Offline


Registered: 05/30/14
Posts: 38
Loc: mississippi
Drag Speciality and Bel-Ray still sell Sport trans fluid. Works good in the 05 back trannies with the straight cut gears. Quiets them down. 06 up sportsters got bigger main shafts and helical cut gears.

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