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#3381979 - 05/27/14 07:37 AM tried archoil
fireman1073 Offline


Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 30
Loc: ma
i have a 2008 subaru tribeca and in an effort to increase mileage (19.1 mpg) i put in archoil 9100
it has been about 1000 miles and fuel mileage is now 19.3 mpg

this is not scientific

driving conditions have remained the same

engine seems smoother but that does not mean much

not sure if i would buy it again

just my thoughts

Steve

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#3381985 - 05/27/14 07:50 AM Re: tried archoil [Re: fireman1073]
gregk24 Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 5351
Loc: FL, USA
Im dont think that would even pay for the cost of the Archoil. Basically over a full tank of gas you eeked out an additional 3.4 miles.


Edited by gregk24 (05/27/14 07:54 AM)
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#3381986 - 05/27/14 07:54 AM Re: tried archoil [Re: fireman1073]
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AR9100 is a 'nanoborate' (their words, not mine) friction modifier to add to your oil.

Their AR6200 is a fuel additive marketed as an MPG improver
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#3382027 - 05/27/14 09:07 AM Re: tried archoil [Re: fireman1073]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 8238
Loc: Upper Midwest
You got that right. Besides not being "scientific", it's not even remotely provable.

You think that in real-world driving over one tank of fuel you can measure a 1% increase in mileage, and attribute that to an additive?

And like Olas pointed out, either you are mistaken on what you added, or you added the wrong thing to your gas.

Originally Posted By: fireman1073
i have a 2008 subaru tribeca and in an effort to increase mileage (19.1 mpg) i put in archoil 9100
it has been about 1000 miles and fuel mileage is now 19.3 mpg

this is not scientific

driving conditions have remained the same

engine seems smoother but that does not mean much

not sure if i would buy it again

just my thoughts

Steve
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#3382114 - 05/27/14 11:19 AM Re: tried archoil [Re: fireman1073]
HTSS_TR Offline


Registered: 04/17/06
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I don't know how much is a bottle of Archoil and so far there isn't many positive reviews. Liqui Moly MoS2 has many more positive reviews and costs less than $6-7 at NAPA.

I tried 1/2 bottle MoS2 in my E430 last oil change about 250 miles ago, so far the trip computer shows an improvement from 28.5-29.5 MPG to 20.5 MPG with same average speed of 29 MPH. The most MPG improvement was the first 2-3 miles driving of the day. The engine seems a little quieter, but it's possible my mind playing trick.

For less than $5 half bottle MoS2, the cost of experience is cheap enough such that if it didn't do any good I didn't loose too much.

My plan is 1/2 oz per quart MoS2 first treatment in all cars and 1/4 oz per quart maintenance at every oil change after that.
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#3382128 - 05/27/14 11:29 AM Re: tried archoil [Re: Olas]
NMBurb02 Offline


Registered: 09/12/12
Posts: 1981
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Originally Posted By: Olas
AR9100 is a 'nanoborate' (their words, not mine) friction modifier to add to your oil.

Their AR6200 is a fuel additive marketed as an MPG improver

Well, this is the "Oil Additives" forum.
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#3382153 - 05/27/14 12:01 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: kschachn]
RF Overlord Offline


Registered: 11/08/03
Posts: 3688
Loc: Cape Cod, MA
Originally Posted By: kschachn
And like Olas pointed out, either you are mistaken on what you added, or you added the wrong thing to your gas.
Where does the OP say he added it to his gas?
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#3382176 - 05/27/14 12:55 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: RF Overlord]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
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Loc: Upper Midwest
You are correct, he doesn't. I read into it something that wasn't there. My mistake.

Originally Posted By: RF Overlord
Originally Posted By: kschachn
And like Olas pointed out, either you are mistaken on what you added, or you added the wrong thing to your gas.
Where does the OP say he added it to his gas?
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#3382180 - 05/27/14 12:59 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: kschachn]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 5108
Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: kschachn
You are correct, he doesn't. I read into it something that wasn't there. My mistake.



An archoil thread tends to do that to people around here.
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#3382223 - 05/27/14 02:18 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: badtlc]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 9783
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: kschachn
You are correct, he doesn't. I read into it something that wasn't there. My mistake.



An archoil thread tends to do that to people around here.




Ha.


I've never used the stuff so I'm not going to trash it however it costs more than mos2 and in my experience mos2 works as advertised therefore I'm not interested in anything else.

In a market where most products are indeed snake oil I'm not buying twice.
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#3382254 - 05/27/14 03:27 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: badtlc]
GatorJ Offline


Registered: 07/24/03
Posts: 181
Loc: Tampa
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: kschachn
You are correct, he doesn't. I read into it something that wasn't there. My mistake.



An archoil thread tends to do that to people around here.


Yep, reminds me of a line from Steve Martin's "Grandmother's Song"

"Criticize things you don't know about"

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#3382259 - 05/27/14 03:37 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: GatorJ]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 8238
Loc: Upper Midwest
Well I did say I misunderstood and read into his statement. But the part about being able to measure (and attribute to Archoil) a 1% MPG increase, that I do know about. What do you think about that claim?

Originally Posted By: GatorJ
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: kschachn
You are correct, he doesn't. I read into it something that wasn't there. My mistake.


An archoil thread tends to do that to people around here.

Yep, reminds me of a line from Steve Martin's "Grandmother's Song"

"Criticize things you don't know about"
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#3382269 - 05/27/14 03:51 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: kschachn]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 5108
Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Well I did say I misunderstood and read into his statement. But the part about being able to measure (and attribute to Archoil) a 1% MPG increase, that I do know about. What do you think about that claim?



For the most part, all this site has is people's opinions about an oil additive working for them. There is no concrete evidence showing MMO, Kreen, Archoil, Zmax, etc. doing anything yet you find supporters of each bickering about the others.

So take the claim like all others as one person's experience. If you don't like it, trust it, whatever, just let it go and move on. This used to be the best subforum on this site because people were open minded and wanted to hear/see others trying new things. Now it is just hypocrites trolling each other.
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#3382274 - 05/27/14 03:55 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: fireman1073]
Trajan Offline


Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 3730
Loc: SE PA
2008 Subbi Tribeca has a 16.9 gallon tank.

322.79 miles (19.1mpg x 16.9 gal tank) vs 326.17 miles (19.3mpg x 16.9) per tank

3.38 miles difference.


Edited by Trajan (05/27/14 03:56 PM)
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#3382360 - 05/27/14 06:33 PM Re: tried archoil [Re: badtlc]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 16458
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: badtlc
There is no concrete evidence showing ARX, MMO, Kreen, Archoil, Zmax, etc. doing anything yet you find supporters of each bickering about the others.

Fixed it for you.
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