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#3370616 - 05/13/14 03:54 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: kschachn]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
They're not "British Petroliam" either.

Maybe he was referring to Liam Geddes, the BP Intervention and Abandonment Consultant. smile
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#3370642 - 05/13/14 04:18 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Registered: 10/08/12
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Loc: California
Use anything high quality that matches anythign on manual...

Synthetic SN rated will be amazing regardless, dont make it complicated on yourself.

If you care about warranty stuff, just buy german castrol or mobil1
that matches any of the 4 numbers you mentioned.

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#3370657 - 05/13/14 04:33 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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but how "synthetic" is a store brand syn vs a name brand "conventional"

ie napa 5w20 syn vs PYB 5w20
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#3370687 - 05/13/14 05:09 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: threeputtpar]
Kuato Online   confused


Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 6399
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: threeputtpar
Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
Good for you! Too many short memories in this declining country. M1 0W-40 is an excellent choice for your application and climate.

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I haven't really forgiven BP for the Florida Panhandle yet.

This is as good excuse as any to break ranks with the BMW/Castrol mantra.


LOL I guess you're just going to give a pass to XOM for the whole Valdez thing in Alaska then?


I am not a fan of XOM, but in all fairness the Valdez was the result of one man.'s irresponsibility. BP's spill was part of a corporate cost cutting measure which intentionally ignored corrective action and safety regulations. So SilverC6 is right.
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#3371040 - 05/13/14 10:32 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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I own a condo on the Gulf so I got to see the BP impact in real time.

But don't think I'm a raging tree-hugger or anything.

I might feel the same way about XOM if I owned a place in Alaska.
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#3372770 - 05/15/14 07:26 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: BMWTurboDzl]
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Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Why not just stick with dealer 5w30 for your intermediate changes? You may also avoid consumption issues due to flipping back and forth.

I'm assuming your vehicle is NOT on the new 10k/yr OCI?


My vehicle is in the 10k/yr OCI category.

Is there a comsumption issue with M1 0W-40 vs. Castrol 0W-40?
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#3372852 - 05/15/14 09:21 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Registered: 04/28/08
Posts: 33489
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Why not just stick with dealer 5w30 for your intermediate changes? You may also avoid consumption issues due to flipping back and forth.

I'm assuming your vehicle is NOT on the new 10k/yr OCI?


My vehicle is in the 10k/yr OCI category.

Is there a comsumption issue with M1 0W-40 vs. Castrol 0W-40?


I don't know about the Castrol, but the M1 0w-40 is the lowest in terms of consumption in my M5. 1L/10,000Km.
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#3373157 - 05/16/14 10:07 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 1757
Loc: Atlanta,GA
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Why not just stick with dealer 5w30 for your intermediate changes? You may also avoid consumption issues due to flipping back and forth.

I'm assuming your vehicle is NOT on the new 10k/yr OCI?


My vehicle is in the 10k/yr OCI category.

Is there a comsumption issue with M1 0W-40 vs. Castrol 0W-40?


Some people get consumption when they constantly change brands. For example my old 330 would consume some oil when I switched oil on my between dealer changes but my 335d does not. The dealer oil is inexpensive as well. You'll also get a chance to build rapport with the Service Dept.


Edited by BMWTurboDzl (05/16/14 10:12 AM)
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#3373167 - 05/16/14 10:31 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: BMWTurboDzl]
FetchFar Offline


Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 831
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
...dealer changes but my 335d does not. The dealer oil is inexpensive as well. You'll also get a chance to build rapport with the Service Dept.


Dealer oil inexpensive? I've never seen any dealer, especially BMW ones, to offer oil cheap per quart. Official BMW bottles cost $11 each at dealer ("stealer") and Mobil1 0w-40 is $7 per quart at Walmart.
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#3373220 - 05/16/14 11:35 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: FetchFar]
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Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Atlanta,GA
Originally Posted By: FetchFar
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
...dealer changes but my 335d does not. The dealer oil is inexpensive as well. You'll also get a chance to build rapport with the Service Dept.


Dealer oil inexpensive? I've never seen any dealer, especially BMW ones, to offer oil cheap per quart. Official BMW bottles cost $11 each at dealer ("stealer") and Mobil1 0w-40 is $7 per quart at Walmart.
LOL...my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

Dealer oil is $8.95 in my neck of the woods.
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#3373233 - 05/16/14 11:53 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: BMWTurboDzl]
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Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 33675
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

You can order online with free ship-to-store. $25/5qt jug.

But M1 0w-40 does not meet LL-04 spec, so that's not something for a 335d anyway.
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#3373241 - 05/16/14 11:58 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Posts: 2903
Loc: Southeast
I know my parts guy already.

The dealership's approach is multiply the price of anything you buy from parts X 2.

$21 BMW OEM oil filter on line = $42 BMW OEM oil filter at the dealership

So I'm sure the $7.25 quart of genuine BMW 5W-30 would be $14.50 there.

Parts and service continue to be profit centers no matter what brand vehicle you are driving.

The dealer is a few miles down the road anyway.

I'm going to stick with the oil offerings at Wallyworld or Advanced Auto/Autozone/O'Reilly.
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#3373390 - 05/16/14 03:35 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: BMWTurboDzl]
FetchFar Offline


Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 831
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
[/quote] LOL...my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

Dealer oil is $8.95 in my neck of the woods.


I'm surprised, yet it makes sense for a dealer to get customers in their for oil changes with the bait of reasonably priced oil. Sure some GM/Ford/Chrysler dealers offer quick oil change services to lure you in, yet the expensive-car dealerships out there rarely give many breaks.
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#3375104 - 05/18/14 08:24 PM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: SilverC6]
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Registered: 05/31/08
Posts: 1006
Loc: Montreal, Quebec in Canada
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I know my parts guy already.

The dealership's approach is multiply the price of anything you buy from parts X 2.

$21 BMW OEM oil filter on line = $42 BMW OEM oil filter at the dealership

So I'm sure the $7.25 quart of genuine BMW 5W-30 would be $14.50 there.

Parts and service continue to be profit centers no matter what brand vehicle you are driving.

The dealer is a few miles down the road anyway.

I'm going to stick with the oil offerings at Wallyworld or Advanced Auto/Autozone/O'Reilly.


Strangely, not always.
Recently I looked for different parts and fluids, and after doing my research on the net ( ebay and some more specialised european cars web site), I called the parts departemenf of a BMW dealership.

For most of the parts, yes, internet is cheaper (except in my case when shipping to Canada gets expensive, but that is not your case), but for some other, the dealer was just few bucks more, and getting the parts right away, it was the right choice to get it from the dealer.

From memory, it was the new blue gas cap and the Pentosin CHF-11S fluid for the power steering.

All the filters, oil, air and cabin, I bought from a Canadian website, dealer was at least double the price.
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#3378908 - 05/23/14 03:34 AM Re: BMW confusion, why not just use M1 0W-40 [Re: FetchFar]
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Loc: Hawaii
Originally Posted By: FetchFar
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
LOL...my Walmart doesn't carry M1 0w40.

Dealer oil is $8.95 in my neck of the woods.


I'm surprised, yet it makes sense for a dealer to get customers in their for oil changes with the bait of reasonably priced oil. Sure some GM/Ford/Chrysler dealers offer quick oil change services to lure you in, yet the expensive-car dealerships out there rarely give many breaks.

[/quote]

Most customers who get their oil changed at the dealer or oil change shops don't know the price of oil. They just know how much the oil change and 50 pt inspection package cost.
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