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#3353494 - 04/26/14 12:19 AM Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer?
FenderGuy53 Offline


Registered: 04/24/14
Posts: 9
Loc: NJ
Guys, I am a complete neophyte when it comes to evaluating the characteristics of motorcycle oil, so I defer to the experts here for assistance in choosing a suitable motor oil that not only excels in performance and protection, but also is suitable for use in all three (3) holes of my 2011 HD Street Glide.

I'm a conservative, fair weather rider and I only ride from late April through November, in temps averaging 55-95 degrees.

My owner manual recommends a 20W-50 oil and I would prefer motorcycle specific brands. Also, I'd like to be able to achieve 3000-5000 mile OCI's.

So, whaddayathink? Any good options out there?

Thanks, guys.

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#3353495 - 04/26/14 12:24 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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I'm using rotella conventional 15w-40 in my street bobs engine and primary and shockproof heavy in the tranny
I've got my twin cam built,big bore,head work,cams,propipe,106 big bore and an oil cooler. 107hp/115tq. 100tq at 2300 rpm.
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#3353501 - 04/26/14 12:37 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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Rotella or amsoil. Many fans of each.
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#3353612 - 04/26/14 07:32 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
rossn2 Offline


Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 406
Loc: Ft Hood Texas area
Did you just buy the bike or have you had a Harley for three years and now wondering what kind of oil to put in it?

Most oil makers have a time requirement on the oils over the mileage. Since you have a short riding period I would be draining the oil and filter you've had in it during the summer prior to storing it. Then in Spring fire it up and run it thru the summer and drain again prior to storing.

SYN3, Amsoil, Mobile V Twin, Valvoline, Redline, Schaffers, Rotella...pick your poison.


Edited by rossn2 (04/26/14 07:33 AM)
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#3353614 - 04/26/14 07:34 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
LoneRanger Offline


Registered: 07/02/07
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Well, you definitely want something on the thick end of the 20W50 range and something you can get anywhere and everywhere. Therefore: Amsoil MCV 20W50 or Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W50.

Amsoil will ship to your doorstep.

Mobil 1 V-Twin is everywhere retail.







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#3353621 - 04/26/14 07:47 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
dr2152 Offline


Registered: 02/23/12
Posts: 198
Loc: FL
Mobile 1 15-50 in motor every 5k miles
Walmart 20-50 in primary every 5k miles
Mobile 1 70-9- gear lube in transmission every 10k miles

This is in my 04 and 14 Ultra

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#3353631 - 04/26/14 08:00 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: rossn2]
FenderGuy53 Offline


Registered: 04/24/14
Posts: 9
Loc: NJ
I bought my FLHX new in June/2011 and have run the HD360 20W-50 dino oil in it from the start. My dealer only carries the HD synth blend and SYN3 oils now, which are pricey for what they are; it's a good time for me to make a switch.

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#3353659 - 04/26/14 08:31 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
BigCahuna Offline


Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 2006
Loc: Deep in the heart of Jersey
I would recommend Valvoline 20/50 wt for the motor, Rotella 15/40 wt for the primary, and any cheap GL-5 rated gear oil for the trans, Why? Because it will cost less for a years worth of use age. Valvoline mc oil is good stuff, look at the UOA'S. Your primary doesn't need expensive oil to lube the chain and clutch, and while MC oils that say to use them in the trans, only carry a gL-1 rating.Even if you only ride between 2-5k miles a year, this combination will perform their duty of protecting your bike just fine.,,

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#3353753 - 04/26/14 10:37 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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You cannot go wrong with Spectro 20-50 V-Twin for the engine, Spectro 6-Speed Syn for the trans, & Spectro HD Primary oil for the primary.
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#3353790 - 04/26/14 11:40 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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Rotella is the best bang for your buck.
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#3353803 - 04/26/14 12:02 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
FenderGuy53 Offline


Registered: 04/24/14
Posts: 9
Loc: NJ
How about Mobil 1 15W-50 in all three holes?


Edited by FenderGuy53 (04/26/14 12:03 PM)

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#3353836 - 04/26/14 01:20 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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This discussion of the most appropriate lube for all three holes is getting a bit weird smile

Originally Posted By: FenderGuy53
How about Mobil 1 15W-50 in all three holes?
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#3354061 - 04/26/14 06:29 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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ROFL ^^^
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#3354090 - 04/26/14 07:04 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
Ducman Offline


Registered: 03/18/13
Posts: 476
Loc: Australia
I don't know about Mobil's recommendations for your application in all 3 holes.

Harley was recommending their Syn3 back in the day but I'm not certain of that any more.
It's possible the Syn3 is not as good as they originally thought it was.

The only company that actually recommends the same oil for all 3 holes like Harley, is Amsoil with their 20w-50 MCV.

For comparison and to add perspective to the concept.
As alternatives, I think Amsoil also say you can run their 75w-110 or 75w-140 gear oil in the transmission, and the 10w-40 MCF motorcycle oil in the primary.

If it was my bike.
With the best level of protection in mind, I would be inclined to run a gear oil in the transmission of a Harley "Big Twin", even though I believe the MCV is a great oil.
The primary would be a lesser consideration for me, and I would ultimately be inclined to see how the shift feel went, as a guide to see what I'd be happiest with in the long run.

Let us know how you go with your decision?


Edited by Ducman (04/26/14 07:10 PM)

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#3354613 - 04/27/14 12:32 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
Propflux01 Offline


Registered: 09/26/02
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Originally Posted By: FenderGuy53

My owner manual recommends a 20W-50 oil and I would prefer motorcycle specific brands. Also, I'd like to be able to achieve 3000-5000 mile OCI's.

So, whaddayathink? Any good options out there?

Thanks, guys.


I Know you say MC specific oil in all 3 holes, but please reconsider using standard 20w-50 oil in the tranny. Use a good gearbox oil instead, and change every two years. engine and primary are not too picky and can use any othe above posted suggestions for oils. your shifting feel and your tranny will thank you.
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#3354638 - 04/27/14 12:54 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
ddrumman2004 Offline


Registered: 11/16/04
Posts: 1003
Loc: Mississippi
It would sure make life easier if there was a good oil for all three "holes" on a Harley Twin Cam. My opinion, there isn't. My opinion that is!

I use Mobile V Twin in the oil tank on my Heritage, 75/90 gear oil in the transmission.....it's a gear box, not an engine with a wet clutch.....and good old Rotella 15/40 in the primary where the wet clutch lives.

Just have to buy three different oils when I change all three.
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#3354674 - 04/27/14 01:54 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
smokey422 Offline


Registered: 11/03/13
Posts: 19
Loc: Marshall, MO USA
For your transmission, I would pick a regular multi-grade gear lube. My pick of the litter is Amsoil 75W90 Severe Gear lube but there are many good ones on the market. Gear oils are made to stand up to the shearing action of gears and you can go for longer change intervals.

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#3356497 - 04/29/14 08:03 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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Red Line Shockproof Heavy in the transmission
Rotella T Triple 15w-40 in the primary
Red Line 20w-50 in the motor (the regular stuff, not motorcycle specific)
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#3358048 - 04/30/14 06:08 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: dr2152]
FenderGuy53 Offline


Registered: 04/24/14
Posts: 9
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Mobile 1 15-50 in motor every 5k miles
Walmart 20-50 in primary every 5k miles
Mobile 1 70-9- gear lube in transmission every 10k miles


I decided on the same course of action for motor and tranny; I'll be using the Mobil 1 15W-50 in the primary, too. For under $25 for a 5-quart jug, I saw no reason to buy something else.

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#3358050 - 04/30/14 06:13 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: Propflux01]
FenderGuy53 Offline


Registered: 04/24/14
Posts: 9
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Propflux01
Originally Posted By: FenderGuy53

My owner manual recommends a 20W-50 oil and I would prefer motorcycle specific brands. Also, I'd like to be able to achieve 3000-5000 mile OCI's.

So, whaddayathink? Any good options out there?

Thanks, guys.


I Know you say MC specific oil in all 3 holes, but please reconsider using standard 20w-50 oil in the tranny. Use a good gearbox oil instead, and change every two years. engine and primary are not too picky and can use any othe above posted suggestions for oils. your shifting feel and your tranny will thank you.


Great point, Propflux01. I got convinced to use something more purpose specific for the tranny, so I'm going with Mobil 1 75W-90 gear lube.

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#3363527 - 05/06/14 03:52 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
Climb14er Offline


Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 74
Loc: Denver, CO
2011 Harley RKC 103

Redline 20W-50 V-Twin Engine

Redline V-Twin Primary

Redline Shock proof Tranny

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#3364815 - 05/07/14 06:42 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 454
Loc: pa
a hot running big V-twin needs a REAL synthetic, group IV + or V. that rules many out. Amsoil or Redline are the best REAL synthetics, mobil I V-Twin isn't far behind. Amsoil's high TBN will allow 5,000 mile changes easily. in my sporty i changed 20-50 Amsoil at the end of riding season, i ride like you, not into icy temps, rain, or snow for sure! never needed any additional oil between changes either. tried amsoil + redline gear lubes, not much help fot the clunky tranny maybe the heavier lubes out now may be a bit better


Edited by benjy (05/07/14 06:49 PM)

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#3377004 - 05/20/14 11:11 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
Idahokid Offline


Registered: 08/11/12
Posts: 27
Loc: Northern Idaho
Lucas says there syn motorcycle oil can be ran in all three holes.I just bought my first Harley and might give it a try.
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#3377122 - 05/21/14 07:19 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: Idahokid]
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Registered: 08/26/05
Posts: 484
Loc: Wisconsin
You may want to do a little research on Lucas Motorcycle oil.
There is a UOA on this site. (not the best results)
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#3381837 - 05/26/14 10:24 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
loneryder Offline


Registered: 04/19/14
Posts: 323
Loc: WV
Originally Posted By: FenderGuy53
Guys, I am a complete neophyte when it comes to evaluating the characteristics of motorcycle oil, so I defer to the experts here for assistance in choosing a suitable motor oil that not only excels in performance and protection, but also is suitable for use in all three (3) holes of my 2011 HD Street Glide.

I'm a conservative, fair weather rider and I only ride from late April through November, in temps averaging 55-95 degrees.

My owner manual recommends a 20W-50 oil and I would prefer motorcycle specific brands. Also, I'd like to be able to achieve 3000-5000 mile OCI's.

So, whaddayathink? Any good options out there?

Thanks, guys

To keep it simple, I use Mobil 1 20-50 in engine and primary and Mobil 1 75-90 in the trans. You will notice the difference after that HD [censored]. People on here have said that you don't need to worry about what kind of oil in the primary but you have a plastic chain tensioner in there that you don't want to wear out prematurely.


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#3381961 - 05/27/14 06:52 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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Registered: 02/26/13
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Loc: Central Virginia
I just did my oil change last week. I have Delo 15W-40 in the engine and primary (all stock motor that's not run hard), H-D Performance + in the tranny. I plan on changing the Delo at 2000 miles, the filter at 4,000. I figure 15W-40 at 2,000 miles is better than 20W-50 when it approaches 5K. I'm the only rider (seldom ride 2-up), but if the bike was run hard or raced I would probably be too scared to run truck oil in the engine.
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#3382250 - 05/27/14 03:06 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
rossn2 Offline


Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 406
Loc: Ft Hood Texas area
Quote:
have Delo 15W-40 in the engine and primary (all stock motor that's not run hard), H-D Performance + in the tranny.


Why run 15w-40 in a stock HD engine? Does it have an Oil cooler on it?



Edited by rossn2 (05/27/14 03:08 PM)
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#3382486 - 05/27/14 08:58 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: rossn2]
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Originally Posted By: rossn2
Quote:
have Delo 15W-40 in the engine and primary (all stock motor that's not run hard), H-D Performance + in the tranny.


Why run 15w-40 in a stock HD engine? Does it have an Oil cooler on it?



Why not run 15-40 diesel oil in a stock HD engine?

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#3382791 - 05/28/14 07:12 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
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Maybe because it's only recommended below 40 degrees.
He should be running 20w-50 oil in the bike..
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#3382886 - 05/28/14 09:22 AM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: rossn2]
BigCahuna Offline


Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 2006
Loc: Deep in the heart of Jersey
Originally Posted By: rossn2
Maybe because it's only recommended below 40 degrees.
He should be running 20w-50 oil in the bike..
+1, Another guy that actually read the book.,,

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#3399024 - 06/16/14 02:46 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: RISUPERCREWMAN]
HarleyGuy Offline


Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: RISUPERCREWMAN
You cannot go wrong with Spectro 20-50 V-Twin for the engine, Spectro 6-Speed Syn for the trans, & Spectro HD Primary oil for the primary.


I also use Spectro except for the crank case. Mobil 1 VTwin there for me.

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#3399246 - 06/16/14 08:09 PM Re: Best 20W-50, 3-Hole Oil for Harley V-Twin Tourer? [Re: FenderGuy53]
DrDave Offline


Registered: 12/29/13
Posts: 94
Loc: Washington
I hear a number of people talk about their hot running HD's. How hot are we talking about? In 70 degree weather my Sporty oil get's to a full 160 degrees.

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