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#3326385 - 03/28/14 02:54 PM How do I clean the piston oil rings?
Cleft_Asunder Offline


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 28
Loc: Reno, NV
168k 1997 honda civic dx:

I just replaced my valve seals and I am still consuming lots of oil. Is there anything I can place through the spark plug holes so that it dissolves the carbon? I have a gallon of LC20, I wonder if I can pour some in and let it sit on the rings. Maybe it's too thick.


Edited by Cleft_Asunder (03/28/14 02:56 PM)

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#3326388 - 03/28/14 02:57 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
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Registered: 10/24/11
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Loc: North Coast
Did you replace the PCV valve?
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#3326439 - 03/28/14 03:44 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
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#3326441 - 03/28/14 03:49 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 17462
Loc: Iowegia - USA
Try something with lubrication such as LCD's LC20, 4-6 ounces in each cylinder.

Let it soak overnight and then turn crankshaft by hand.

Let it soak overnight again and repeat next day.

Before firing up, inspect each hole to make sure all liquid has run past the rings. If not suck it out.


Edited by MolaKule (03/28/14 03:55 PM)
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#3326501 - 03/28/14 04:47 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
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Leave the plugs out for the entire operation. smile
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#3326513 - 03/28/14 05:02 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: andyd]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
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Originally Posted By: andyd
Leave the plugs out for the entire operation. smile


Absolutely and thanks for reminding me of that crucial step. thumbsup


Edited by MolaKule (03/28/14 05:03 PM)
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#3326521 - 03/28/14 05:08 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
Gokhan Offline


Registered: 12/29/10
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Loc: Los Angeles, California
Originally Posted By: Cleft_Asunder
I just replaced my valve seals and I am still consuming lots of oil.

Are you sure that it was done right? It's not difficult to damage or break these very delicate seals during installation. Also, if they aren't seated properly, they will pop out and then you have no seals.

I had posted this a while ago:

Wonders of valve-stem oil seal replacement
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#3329137 - 03/31/14 12:58 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Gokhan]
Cleft_Asunder Offline


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 28
Loc: Reno, NV
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: Cleft_Asunder
I just replaced my valve seals and I am still consuming lots of oil.

Are you sure that it was done right? It's not difficult to damage or break these very delicate seals during installation. Also, if they aren't seated properly, they will pop out and then you have no seals.

I had posted this a while ago:

Wonders of valve-stem oil seal replacement


I'm confident I did it right, just the way you described in your DIY, but I will check again soon, just to make sure they haven't come loose. Thanks.

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#3329140 - 03/31/14 12:59 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: MolaKule]
Cleft_Asunder Offline


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 28
Loc: Reno, NV
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Try something with lubrication such as LCD's LC20, 4-6 ounces in each cylinder.

Let it soak overnight and then turn crankshaft by hand.

Let it soak overnight again and repeat next day.

Before firing up, inspect each hole to make sure all liquid has run past the rings. If not suck it out.


I'm going to try that!

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#3329180 - 03/31/14 01:35 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
Cleft_Asunder Offline


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 28
Loc: Reno, NV
I'm putting in like 2 quarts every 3000 miles. No external leaks. Could a headgasket leak oil into one of the cylinders? I have no coolant leaks.

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#3329203 - 03/31/14 02:01 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
jayg Offline


Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 516
Loc: Talkeetna, AK
How is it smoking? Usally smoking at idle = valve stem seals. Smoking under aceleration = rings.
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#3329209 - 03/31/14 02:08 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 38489
Loc: New Jersey
I had no smoke, no drips, just lots of consumption on the highway... Did B-12 chemtool flush after other options didnt help. Added restore after that on a whim because lots of reports indicated it quiets lifter ticks. Both the tick and the consumption are gone!

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#3329227 - 03/31/14 02:29 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: JHZR2]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
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Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I had no smoke, no drips, just lots of consumption on the highway... Did B-12 chemtool flush after other options didnt help. Added restore after that on a whim because lots of reports indicated it quiets lifter ticks. Both the tick and the consumption are gone!


Be careful speaking positively about Restore, it could get you in trouble around here. LOL
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#3329359 - 03/31/14 04:33 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: demarpaint]
Cleft_Asunder Offline


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 28
Loc: Reno, NV
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I had no smoke, no drips, just lots of consumption on the highway... Did B-12 chemtool flush after other options didnt help. Added restore after that on a whim because lots of reports indicated it quiets lifter ticks. Both the tick and the consumption are gone!


Be careful speaking positively about Restore, it could get you in trouble around here. LOL


Yeah but for how long are they gone? Until you stop using the engine restore? Was it the b12 flush that cured it or the engine restore?

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#3329785 - 03/31/14 10:18 PM Re: How do I clean the piston oil rings? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 38489
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: Cleft_Asunder
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I had no smoke, no drips, just lots of consumption on the highway... Did B-12 chemtool flush after other options didnt help. Added restore after that on a whim because lots of reports indicated it quiets lifter ticks. Both the tick and the consumption are gone!


Be careful speaking positively about Restore, it could get you in trouble around here. LOL


Yeah but for how long are they gone? Until you stop using the engine restore? Was it the b12 flush that cured it or the engine restore?


I cant say for sure. I wasnt intending to do a scientific study, just some last-ditch efforts after trying a few other things. Next step would be to live with it or to shell out money.

In all practicality, given that one item is like $3 (for a full bottle that you only use half of), and the other is maybe $10, I really dont care all that much, because application of both is so darn cheap. When I change out my oil and dont put anything in, then if/when I see changes, it may be telling...

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