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#3282204 - 02/14/14 04:57 PM Impractical vehicles
otis24 Offline


Registered: 10/30/05
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I used to always want to own a Jeep. I know a few people who own them as their primary vehicle. IMHO, they have to be the most impractical vehicle out there. If someone could afford to just own a "fun" vehicle, this might be it. But, a Jeep can not haul many people, let alone do so as comfortably as a sedan.

A Jeep can haul little, if any, cargo. Not near as much as a small 4x4 pickup. An extended cab or crew cab pickup can haul small amounts of cargo and passengers as well.

Perhaps for a single person with no family or kids, a Jeep may make sense. Guessing an AWD/4WD SUV would be better. But for the most part, a Jeep seems to have little "practical" usefulness. Maybe thats the point of a Jeep?
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#3282209 - 02/14/14 05:03 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
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Loc: Oz
Yeah, I was taken by the Wragnlers when they started selling them again downunder.

Until I drove one, and tried to work out what to do with prams, baby seats, etc. etc.

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#3282210 - 02/14/14 05:04 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
supton Offline


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I thought it was for "go anywhere". Small wheelbase, narrow, 4WD. For that purpose it's pretty practical. It does manage asphalt, and it manages fire roads, and it manages where the road becomes more of a hint.
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#3282225 - 02/14/14 05:17 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
Shannow Offline


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Yeah, but my BJ42 'Cruiser could carry more gear with the people to those places.

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#3282275 - 02/14/14 06:00 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8440
Loc: Florida
Some people just have to have a car that looks a certain way.

Just look at how many people since 1998 have bought VW Beetles, even though those beetles have a small trunk and back seats that are awkward to access. You could buy a Jetta at a similar price and not have all that frustration.
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#3282285 - 02/14/14 06:12 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
datech Offline


Registered: 01/14/14
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Loc: us
The jeep was invented for a particular duty, carrying just a few people, not much cargo except their personal firearms, over rugged terrain, often off-road.

It's still good for that but it's not going to compete with a modern highway vehicle.

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#3282287 - 02/14/14 06:13 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
MinamiKotaro Offline


Registered: 08/01/12
Posts: 1241
Loc: TN
I wanted a Wrangler, too, until I test-drove one (circa 1998). Uncomfortable, rode poorly, handled poorly, slow, lousy mileage, low tow rating, no cargo room, no passenger room, and, as they come stock, useless for any real off-roading.

Frankly, I couldn't think of a single positive thing to say about it. Newer ones would have to be better. I hope.
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#3282300 - 02/14/14 06:25 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
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Registered: 07/21/02
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In 2002 I bought a 1999 Wrangler Sahara in order to nullify a potential line of attack from a political opponent. Before I bought it I fully intended to sell it after the election. As it turned out, my wife, son, and I all became quite fond of it and I ended up selling my 1993 Pathfinder SE instead. Over the subsequent 15 years I've added Bilstein HDs, Hella E-Code headlamps, OSRAM Night Breaker Plus bulbs, a Banks Torque Tube exhaust manifold, and MB Quart speakers. We all still love it and I often drive it on longer trips for both work and pleasure. That said, to each his own...
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#3282311 - 02/14/14 06:36 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 13493
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For the way most of us use cars, this Jeep would be as practical as anything else.
They are fun to drive and they do have a unique look.
If you want one, then why not?
If you don't you should maybe buy a Fit.
If you want the best of both worlds, then see your Subaru dealer.
My point is that there are a lot of choices out there.
Pick one that suits you and your use.
Many different choices for many different users for that daily commute.
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#3282330 - 02/14/14 06:58 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
jeepman3071 Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
I chose a Cherokee over a Wrangler simply because I can haul more people and cargo. I can also tow more, and the purchase price was cheaper. I somehow get better mpg than a Wrangler as well, I think it is due to the even worse aerodynamics of the Wrangler.

That said, I know many people who have them and love them. If you've ever driven to the beach on a hot sunny day with no doors or top you will want one.

I know a guy who has one as a daily driver. He pulls a jet-ski trailer with it in the summer, and uses it to plow his driveway in the winter.

I wouldn't own one as a daily driver but I can see why people would. shrug
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#3282337 - 02/14/14 07:07 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: MCompact]
Ramblejam Offline


Registered: 11/05/13
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Loc: Kentucky
Originally Posted By: MCompact
In 2002 I bought a 1999 Wrangler Sahara in order to nullify a potential line of attack from a political opponent.


You need to elaborate on this...

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#3282355 - 02/14/14 07:35 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: Ramblejam]
MCompact Offline


Registered: 07/21/02
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Loc: KY
Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
Originally Posted By: MCompact
In 2002 I bought a 1999 Wrangler Sahara in order to nullify a potential line of attack from a political opponent.


You need to elaborate on this...


I anticipated that my opponent would bring up the fact that I didn't drive an American-made vehicle; the Wrangler stopped that tactic in its tracks.
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#3282381 - 02/14/14 08:23 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
Chris142 Offline


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I daily drove mine for 10 yrs. It gives me an excuse to not get parts,deliver parts with it or more than 1 customer lol
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#3282386 - 02/14/14 08:27 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
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Registered: 09/30/13
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Wranglers are not very practical at all.. about like an Audi TT, Mazda Miata, VW Bug or any small 2 door. You buy them because they are fun. Even with a new JK, our family of 4 is cramped in there like clowns. Heaven forbid you go to the store and buy things with the expectation of taking it all home.. Made the mistake of getting a shop vac 30 miles from home once.

Doorless/ topless is awesome though.
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#3282397 - 02/14/14 08:41 PM Re: Impractical vehicles [Re: otis24]
otis24 Offline


Registered: 10/30/05
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Yep, a topless option is nice, not just in Jeeps either!
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