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#3282054 - 02/14/14 02:17 PM 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill
chaser06 Offline


Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 114
Loc: Wisconsin
This is the first UOA on my new Camry. This is a commuter vehicle seeing about 110 miles per day. Usage is primarily highway (about 80%). As expected, certain wear metals are high as well as silicon. I was pleased to see a remaining TBN of 1.9 although this vehicle sees highway use most of the time.

Any comments are welcome.

Code:

2014 Camry 2.5L
Toyota 0W20 Factory Fill
Miles on Oil:  9,925
Miles on Vehicle:  9,925
No Oil added
Sample taken: 2/12/14



ALUMINUM       5
CHROMIUM       0
IRON           21
COPPER         101
LEAD           1
TIN            0
MOLYBDENUM     162
NICKEL         3
MANGANESE      9
SILVER         0
TITANIUM       47
POTASSIUM      8
BORON          3
SILICON        242
SODIUM         369
CALCIUM        1506
MAGNESIUM      7
PHOSPHORUS     651
ZINC           752
BARIUM         3

cSt Viscosity @ 100C   6.33
SUS Viscosity @ 210F   46.9
Flashpoint in F        385
Fuel %                  TR
Water %                 0.0
Antifreeze %            0.0
Insolubles %            0.3
TBN                     1.9



Edited by chaser06 (02/14/14 02:26 PM)
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#3282061 - 02/14/14 02:22 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: chaser06]
Klutch9 Offline


Registered: 01/07/09
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Loc: Rochester, MI, US, World
That's a nice TBN with nearly 10k miles on the oil. That makes me even more excited to use my TGMO 0w-20 this summer smile how do you like the car?
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#3282066 - 02/14/14 02:31 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: Klutch9]
chaser06 Offline


Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 114
Loc: Wisconsin
The Camry meets my needs as a commuter. It gets good fuel economy, has a nice ride, handles well, and has decent acceleration. Avg fuel economy for the life of the vehicle is 30.6 mpg. I'm expecting an increase as warmer weather arrives and winter fuel is phased out. I purchased it in Oct 2013.
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#3282073 - 02/14/14 02:37 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: chaser06]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 7380
Loc: Ohio
No Accord anymore huh?

Originally Posted By: chaser06
Here is the first UOA on my Honda. The vehicle has a total of 19,668 miles with almost 10k on this sample. No oil was added during this run. I drive about 100 miles per day commuting mostly highway miles (about 90%). My Maintenance minder was at 15% when I changed the oil.

Miles on oil: 9962
Miles on vehicle: 19668
Date of test: 6/13/08
Oil: Mobil 1 5W-20
Oil Filter: Purolator PureOne


Iron 18
Chromium 0
Lead 4
Copper 9
Tin 0
Aluminum 10
Nickel 5
Silver 0
Silicon 25
Boron 47
Sodium 24
Magnesium 17
Calcium 2081
Barium 0
Phosphorus 668
Zinc 823
Molybdenum 92
Titanium 0
Vanadium 0
Potassium 0

Fuel <1
Visc100 7.39
Water 0
Coolant No
TBN 3.39

Any comments?

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#3282079 - 02/14/14 02:46 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: SatinSilver]
chaser06 Offline


Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 114
Loc: Wisconsin
Nope. I thought I'd try something different.
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#3282084 - 02/14/14 02:48 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: chaser06]
walk23 Offline


Registered: 05/16/11
Posts: 584
Loc: TX - TEXAS
Noticed the titanium in the factory fill. The high wear numbers and high silicon causes me to wonder whether shorter first oil changes are the way to go. Any opinions ?
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#3282104 - 02/14/14 03:03 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: walk23]
BISCUT Offline


Registered: 12/28/11
Posts: 1858
Loc: NewYorkistan
Amen to you!! Commuter car or not, takes a pair to run FF to 10k. Impressied with the results also.
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#3282114 - 02/14/14 03:12 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: chaser06]
Danh Offline


Registered: 10/16/10
Posts: 1379
Loc: .
Close to shearing out of grade, though. Don't know if oils used during break-in shear more than normal, but this seems worth watching, especially as your use pattern is close to ideal.

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#3282125 - 02/14/14 03:25 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: chaser06]
BearZDefect Offline


Registered: 08/15/05
Posts: 2187
Loc: Lexington, KY
It appears 10,000 miles on TGMO in your usage pattern works well. I would continue with confidence.

However, under Toyota Care for the Camry 2.5, dealers will only change the oil every 10,000 miles (or one year) regardless of usage conditions. I am not confident that the oil will keep the engine clean for 10,000 miles of only short trips. At 5,000 miles the dealer only checks the level and rotates wheels, no oil change.

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#3282178 - 02/14/14 04:21 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: BearZDefect]
chaser06 Offline


Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 114
Loc: Wisconsin
Toyota specifies synthetic oil and after reading various posts on this site regarding TGMO I decided to follow Toyota's recommendations. If my use consisted of only short trips I think my OCI would be less; not 5,000 miles, maybe 7,500.

Toyota's "maintenance minder" (sorry, I'm used to Honda's) appears to be purely odometer based; every 5,000 miles.
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#3282193 - 02/14/14 04:49 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: chaser06]
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Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 2670
Loc: Richmond, VA
you could always change the oil at 7k with some ST. Just leave the filter on.
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#3282290 - 02/14/14 06:17 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: chaser06]
dustyroads Offline


Registered: 05/13/13
Posts: 916
Loc: upstate NY
Very impressive! Does TGMO off the shelf have sodium or titanium in it?
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#3282599 - 02/15/14 03:29 AM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: walk23]
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 19630
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
Originally Posted By: walk23
Noticed the titanium in the factory fill. The high wear numbers and high silicon causes me to wonder whether shorter first oil changes are the way to go. Any opinions ?


What high wear numbers? The numbers in this UOA look great!
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#3282796 - 02/15/14 09:39 AM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: Patman]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 7380
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: Patman
What high wear numbers? The numbers in this UOA look great!


+1, yeah really, I was thinking the same thing. My dad has a 2012 Camry and brother just bought a 2014 Camry. So it's good to see this report. Dad has been going 10k intervals and I've been checking the level every few weeks. It's coming up on 40k miles.
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#3283272 - 02/15/14 04:45 PM Re: 2014 Camry 2.5L, 9925 miles, 0W20 Factory Fill [Re: Patman]
ccl088 Offline


Registered: 10/22/13
Posts: 29
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: walk23
Noticed the titanium in the factory fill. The high wear numbers and high silicon causes me to wonder whether shorter first oil changes are the way to go. Any opinions ?


What high wear numbers? The numbers in this UOA look great!




Copper @ 101 for one..

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