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#3331270 - 04/02/14 10:30 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: dparm]
SilverC6 Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
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The turbo V8 M6 has a 9 quart sump and the filter has about three times the surface area of a Camry filter.

The dealer asked for $41 for a filter for my next unscheduled change.

About $22 online so I passed.

Maybe I can find a Purolator or OCOD for it. : )
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#3331276 - 04/02/14 10:33 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: SilverC6]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 4523
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
The turbo V8 M6 has a 9 quart sump and the filter has about three times the surface area of a Camry filter.

The dealer asked for $41 for a filter for my next unscheduled change.

About $22 online so I passed.

Maybe I can find a Purolator or OCOD for it. : )

Are you serious?
Stick to original. You are driving M6 and trying to save on filter?
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#3331277 - 04/02/14 10:33 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: SilverC6]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 13431
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
The turbo V8 M6 has a 9 quart sump and the filter has about three times the surface area of a Camry filter.

The dealer asked for $41 for a filter for my next unscheduled change.

About $22 online so I passed.

Maybe I can find a Purolator or OCOD for it. : )



You can find a Purolator for it -- it will be labeled as a Mann filter.
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#3331280 - 04/02/14 10:35 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: edyvw]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 13431
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
The turbo V8 M6 has a 9 quart sump and the filter has about three times the surface area of a Camry filter.

The dealer asked for $41 for a filter for my next unscheduled change.

About $22 online so I passed.

Maybe I can find a Purolator or OCOD for it. : )

Are you serious?
Stick to original. You are driving M6 and trying to save on filter?



Edyvw, just because the car costs $100,000 doesn't mean that the price of parts should be jacked way up. It's an oil filter, a common service part. We're not talking about a very unique low-volume replacement part here.

It frustrates me when guys on the M3 boards ridicule people who don't want to spend $4000+ on an exhaust and instead opt for the $1500 one with identical build quality but a less-respectable name. "Dude, you spent $75,000 on the car and don't want to spend extra for an Akrapovic exhaust?" No, I don't.
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#3331281 - 04/02/14 10:36 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: dparm]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 4523
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
The turbo V8 M6 has a 9 quart sump and the filter has about three times the surface area of a Camry filter.

The dealer asked for $41 for a filter for my next unscheduled change.

About $22 online so I passed.

Maybe I can find a Purolator or OCOD for it. : )



You can find a Purolator for it -- it will be labeled as a Mann filter.

WHy would you get Mann if car is still under warranty? Mann is OEM for BMW, but if it is under warranty BMW wants original to be used.
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#3331340 - 04/02/14 11:50 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: edyvw]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 34618
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: edyvw
WHy would you get Mann if car is still under warranty? Mann is OEM for BMW, but if it is under warranty BMW wants original to be used.

What's wrong with Mann? Last time I checked, the owner's manual didn't require that only OEM filter can be used.

Not to mention that Mann is one of the OEMs, as you pointed out.
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#3331409 - 04/02/14 01:25 PM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: Quattro Pete]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
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Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: edyvw
WHy would you get Mann if car is still under warranty? Mann is OEM for BMW, but if it is under warranty BMW wants original to be used.

What's wrong with Mann? Last time I checked, the owner's manual didn't require that only OEM filter can be used.

Not to mention that Mann is one of the OEMs, as you pointed out.

As far as I know, owners manual in my car also does not require OEM filter, BUT still do not want to test waters with VW.
I would say, if you have car under warranty keep using OEM until warranty runs out.
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#3331455 - 04/02/14 02:37 PM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: dparm]
SilverC6 Offline


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I was kidding about the OCOD and the Purolator.

The point of the post was that the dealer was charging $41 for the same OEM BMW/Mahle filter that could be purchased online for around $20.

For the record, a FRAM to fit the car costs $20 anyway and is just a repackaged Mahle.
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#3331468 - 04/02/14 02:44 PM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: edyvw]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 13431
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
The turbo V8 M6 has a 9 quart sump and the filter has about three times the surface area of a Camry filter.

The dealer asked for $41 for a filter for my next unscheduled change.

About $22 online so I passed.

Maybe I can find a Purolator or OCOD for it. : )



You can find a Purolator for it -- it will be labeled as a Mann filter.

WHy would you get Mann if car is still under warranty? Mann is OEM for BMW, but if it is under warranty BMW wants original to be used.



Mahle is actually the big supplier for BMW OEM filters, from what I can see. Hengst and Mann of course have them too.
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#3331645 - 04/02/14 06:21 PM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: SilverC6]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 4523
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I was kidding about the OCOD and the Purolator.

The point of the post was that the dealer was charging $41 for the same OEM BMW/Mahle filter that could be purchased online for around $20.

For the record, a FRAM to fit the car costs $20 anyway and is just a repackaged Mahle.

I do not know. I trust MANN, have them in my car. I am also familiar with MANN production, and while MANN is of superb quality, I know that OEM are slightly different (filter paper).
Of course, $20 is big difference for same filter. At least VW is not charging any different (I think difference is like $1-2).
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#3332056 - 04/03/14 08:42 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: SilverC6]
BMWTurboDzl Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 1823
Loc: Atlanta,GA
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Well I'm even more confused now.

The dealer just performed the 1200 mile service on my M6.

I requested Castrol 0W-40 be used but the dealer advised that, indeed, BMW 5W-30 was the proper fill.

Owner's manual clearly states 0W-30 or 0w-40 is approved with 5W-30 and 5W-40 also being acceptable.

I plan to run the 5W-30 for 5000 miles and then change with Castrol 0W-40 myself.

Even with uber LL-01 Euro spec oil, I can't say I believe in BMW's 10K OCI for this vehicle.


Technically BMW dealers shouldn't stock 0-40. They only stock BMW 5w30, TWS, and LL04 Edge 5w30. Maybe some 10w40/30 for older cars.
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#3332241 - 04/03/14 12:10 PM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: dparm]
SilverC6 Offline


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I guess moving everything to the LL-04 elixir is important to BMWUSA.

I need to see a VOA on the stuff in comparison to GC.

Maybe I'm concerned about nothing.
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#3332246 - 04/03/14 12:13 PM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: SilverC6]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 34618
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I guess moving everything to the LL-04 elixir is important to BMWUSA.

They won't do it until the gasoline quality in the US improves. Can't remember what's the latest schedule to make our gasoline ultra-low sulfur...
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#3332425 - 04/03/14 03:00 PM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: SilverC6]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 13431
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
I guess moving everything to the LL-04 elixir is important to BMWUSA.

I need to see a VOA on the stuff in comparison to GC.

Maybe I'm concerned about nothing.



I think you are indeed concerned about nothing. BMW develops those oils with Castrol to meet their specific requirements. It's not advantageous for them to try and cheap out on something that has the BMW name on it that must be used in millions of vehicles.

I don't think the BMW-branded oils are the best you can buy, but I think they are certainly adequate for the majority of users.
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#3344158 - 04/16/14 04:25 AM Re: The confusion around BMW M oils continues [Re: dparm]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 549
Loc: England
Originally Posted By: dparm
Castrol wouldn't bother paying for TWS to get certified as LL-01 since it was never intended for widespread use. It would easily pass, in my opinion.


Not sure it would do the longlife oil drain interval would it?

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