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#3221143 - 12/18/13 10:25 PM Maintenance Dosing Gasoline
Ramblejam Offline


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For continual cleanliness & lubrication -- is TC-W3 the choice?

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#3221147 - 12/18/13 10:28 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Ramblejam]
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This group certainly seems to think so: sarge


Edited by Finz (12/18/13 10:29 PM)
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#3221310 - 12/19/13 07:17 AM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Ramblejam]
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Techron is a good choice as well
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#3221660 - 12/19/13 01:11 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Ramblejam]
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Registered: 02/14/13
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Loc: Nevada, USA
Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
For continual cleanliness & lubrication -- is TC-W3 the choice?





If you plan on adding something with every fill-up, then I would recommend Chevron Techron at 1/10 the strength recommended on the bottle.

The dose recommended on the bottle is for a one-time cleaning, but one tenth of that is approximately the level of Techron that Chevron puts in their pump gas.

That 1/10 dose added at every fill-up should be a great maintenance dose.

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#3221672 - 12/19/13 01:25 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Ramblejam]
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1/10 sounds much higher than I would expect in Chevron gas. Where did this number come from? Ed
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#3221734 - 12/19/13 02:29 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Eddie]
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Registered: 05/06/05
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Loc: SF Bay Area
Originally Posted By: Eddie
1/10 sounds much higher than I would expect in Chevron gas. Where did this number come from? Ed

I think the reference is to 1/10th the concentration recommended on the bottle. There are different versions out there, but the latest I remember is a 12 oz bottle with a recommendation to use it for up to 15 gallons of fuel. I also remember when the 12/20 oz bottles were recommended for 12/20 gallons. So for that one it would be 1 oz for ever 10 gallons.

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#3221742 - 12/19/13 02:33 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: toneydoc]
y_p_w Offline


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Originally Posted By: toneydoc
Techron is a good choice as well

TC-W3 is a standard for marine 2-stroke oil. I think they're asking if it's a good idea to use this in a 4-stroke vehicle.

http://www.nmma.org/certification/certification/oil/tc-w3.aspx
http://www.nmma.org/assets/cabinets/Cabi...rine%20Oils.pdf


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#3221749 - 12/19/13 02:44 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Ramblejam]
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Techron/Regane/etc + TCW3 FTW!

Clean and lube. I prefer to run a few tanks on, then a few tanks off and play "can I detect a MPG gain" with my data. I did see some improvement with the above mix. ~ 3:1 ratio or so and ~ 1oz/3gal dose.
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#3221832 - 12/19/13 03:53 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Eddie]
gaijinnv Offline


Registered: 02/14/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Nevada, USA
Originally Posted By: Eddie
1/10 sounds much higher than I would expect in Chevron gas. Where did this number come from? Ed


The bottles of Techron I have are the 20 oz. bottles which indicate they will treat 20 gallons. This equals 1 oz. / gallon.

My recommendation, based on information gleaned over the years from various sources (trust it or not, it's free advice and definitely worth at least what you're paying for it) is to use 1 oz. / 10 gallons as a continuous treatment dose. This is 1/10th the dose recommended on the bottle.

What makes you think 1 oz. / 10 gallons is higher than the amount in pump gas?

Edit to add:

If you are too lazy to Google it, here's what Chevron has to say on their Techron web site:

What is the difference between Techron® at the pump and Techron Concentrate Plus in the bottle?

The principal difference is additive concentration and rate of deposit clean-up. Gasolines with Techron over multiple fill-ups will help clean deposits on intake valves and minimize harmful combustion chambers deposits. When added to a full tank of gasoline, a bottle of Techron® Concentrate Plus results in an additive concentration roughly 10 times stronger. This mega-dose of Techron provides a much quicker clean up of intake valve deposits left by lower quality gasolines. In addition, the high concentration of Techron reduces combustion chamber deposits, which can help eliminate deposit-related engine knock.

Here's the link: Techron web site



Edited by gaijinnv (12/19/13 03:59 PM)

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#3221972 - 12/19/13 06:29 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: gaijinnv]
y_p_w Offline


Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 3466
Loc: SF Bay Area
Originally Posted By: gaijinnv
Originally Posted By: Eddie
1/10 sounds much higher than I would expect in Chevron gas. Where did this number come from? Ed


The bottles of Techron I have are the 20 oz. bottles which indicate they will treat 20 gallons. This equals 1 oz. / gallon.

My recommendation, based on information gleaned over the years from various sources (trust it or not, it's free advice and definitely worth at least what you're paying for it) is to use 1 oz. / 10 gallons as a continuous treatment dose. This is 1/10th the dose recommended on the bottle.

What makes you think 1 oz. / 10 gallons is higher than the amount in pump gas?

Edit to add:

If you are too lazy to Google it, here's what Chevron has to say on their Techron web site:

What is the difference between Techron® at the pump and Techron Concentrate Plus in the bottle?

The principal difference is additive concentration and rate of deposit clean-up. Gasolines with Techron over multiple fill-ups will help clean deposits on intake valves and minimize harmful combustion chambers deposits. When added to a full tank of gasoline, a bottle of Techron® Concentrate Plus results in an additive concentration roughly 10 times stronger. This mega-dose of Techron provides a much quicker clean up of intake valve deposits left by lower quality gasolines. In addition, the high concentration of Techron reduces combustion chamber deposits, which can help eliminate deposit-related engine knock.

Here's the link: Techron web site


I was actually thinking perhaps a little bit lower. There's already at least the EPA mandated amount of detergent in fuel. Most would be synergistic since they're similar in makeup (usually PEA).

And if you're already using a fuel that's advertised as Top Tier or that's advertised as having a high dose (Costco Clean Power) then it may not be necessary.

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#3221989 - 12/19/13 06:48 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Ramblejam]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 4735
Loc: Florida
I pour in an oz of Redline's Fuel System Cleaner into my 13.2 gallon tank at every fill up. Even though I use Shell or BP 95% of the time, I still add the cleaner at small doses simply to add a bit more cleaning additives into the mix.

I haven't done any testing to see if it adds gas mileage due to upper cylinder lubrication because my driving style is all over the place and my average MPGs jump around -7-8 points at practically every fill up... Hahaha.
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#3221995 - 12/19/13 06:55 PM Re: Maintenance Dosing Gasoline [Re: Ramblejam]
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Registered: 12/07/03
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Loc: Florida, Cape Coral
Thank you. I love real data and so much on these sites are opinion, given a fact. Ed
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