Recent Topics
Found a use for the Lubegard Biotech/0w20 Edge
by Marco620
09/30/16 11:59 PM
Whats in your oil stash?
by Farmer
09/30/16 10:55 PM
350z Junker
by FranklinJL
09/30/16 10:53 PM
Oil for high-miles 2009 Hyundai Accent?
by cbuck
09/30/16 08:53 PM
New Spark Plugs in 2010 Accord
by Phishin
09/30/16 08:52 PM
West Virginia
by car51
09/30/16 08:02 PM
Broken bolt from brake caliper Buick Park Ave
by GerGa
09/30/16 07:47 PM
Valve Cover Gasket and Tranny Fluid Question
by THafeez
09/30/16 07:43 PM
Oil Recommendation
by BkOB
09/30/16 07:32 PM
U-Verse Elite (6Mbps)
by PandaBear
09/30/16 07:22 PM
chinese filter
by mobilaltima
09/30/16 05:00 PM
Interesting find: Petro Canada Duron XL 15W40
by alex_at
09/30/16 04:40 PM
Newest Members
Gunnman, jtoz, Jeff_Ferg, Kaiser, DanielStone
59229 Registered Users
Who's Online
26 registered (4WD, car51, 1foxracing, bdcardinal, Char Baby, Black_Thunder), 663 Guests and 11 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
59229 Members
66 Forums
255118 Topics
4191300 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#3196939 - 11/24/13 06:51 PM Why no M1 AFE for my wifes STS?
BobsArmory Offline


Registered: 03/28/10
Posts: 992
Loc: Michigan
So I'm looking at the Mobil 1 website and plugging in different vehicles into the oil finder application they have. Seems like every car or truck that I plug in that requires 5W-30, Mobil will give AFE 0W-30 as an alternative except my wife's 2007 Cadillac STS AWD with the V-6 engine. 5W-30 is the only weight they recommend.

Is it because it might be a DI engine (don't know if it is or isn't). Is this engine hard on oil?

What am I missing here?
_________________________
Keeping the forces of evil at bay
2016 Chevy Malibu
2009 Chevy Silverado

Top
#3196953 - 11/24/13 07:02 PM Re: Why no M1 AFE for my wifes STS? [Re: BobsArmory]
umungus1122 Offline


Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 664
Loc: PA
I know GM says only 5w-30 in most everything, but I bet that AFE will do fine. Wonder what would happen if 10w-30 went in? wink
_________________________
"Just walk away, and I promise you safe passage out of the wasteland."
'95 Chevy 1/2t 305 200k - Mobil semi-syn 7500 10w-30, CARQUEST Blue filter

Top
#3196969 - 11/24/13 07:12 PM Re: Why no M1 AFE for my wifes STS? [Re: BobsArmory]
RamFan Offline


Registered: 05/09/10
Posts: 1823
Loc: Illinois, U.S.A
Originally Posted By: BobsArmory
So I'm looking at the Mobil 1 website and plugging in different vehicles into the oil finder application they have. Seems like every car or truck that I plug in that requires 5W-30, Mobil will give AFE 0W-30 as an alternative except my wife's 2007 Cadillac STS AWD with the V-6 engine. 5W-30 is the only weight they recommend.

Is it because it might be a DI engine (don't know if it is or isn't). Is this engine hard on oil?

What am I missing here?


Doubt it's a DI thing considering Mobil 1 0w20 is Dexos1 rated.


Edited by RamFan (11/24/13 07:12 PM)
_________________________
06 Monte Carlo LT
+3.9l V6 - 177k - M1 0w30 - Fram Pro - OLM
16.5 CX-5 Touring
+2.5l I4 - 13k - Mobil Super 0w20 - Fram Ultra - OLM

Top
#3197023 - 11/24/13 07:49 PM Re: Why no M1 AFE for my wifes STS? [Re: BobsArmory]
HangFire Offline


Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 1793
Loc: Central Maryland
Originally Posted By: BobsArmory
So I'm looking at the Mobil 1 website and plugging in different vehicles into the oil finder application they have. Seems like every car or truck that I plug in that requires 5W-30, Mobil will give AFE 0W-30 as an alternative except my wife's 2007 Cadillac STS AWD with the V-6 engine. 5W-30 is the only weight they recommend.

Is it because it might be a DI engine (don't know if it is or isn't). Is this engine hard on oil?

What am I missing here?


The web selector might be working with incomplete data and stuck on one older spec that someone failed to do the data entry fo (I'm thinking something like GM6094M). It's not unusual for these "helpful" apps to not get it 100% right.

According to this list 0w-30 met GM's specs back in 2008.

http://pangea.stanford.edu/~schmitt/car/gm_approved_engine_oils.pdf

So one approach would be to find all the old specs that applied to your Caddie and see if 0w-30 meets them, through archived charts like the one above.

Another approach would be to say, it's gasoline, it's GM, so I can use any Dexos oil in the correct weight (30 weight being "correct").

Another approach would be to call both GM and Mobil and ask why or why not.

Another approach is to say, I've learned enough from BITOG to say, forget it, I know it'll be fine.

HF
_________________________
Various musings: http://hangfire.net

Top
#3197025 - 11/24/13 07:53 PM Re: Why no M1 AFE for my wifes STS? [Re: BobsArmory]
d00df00d Offline


Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 10241
Loc: PA
Mobil's page for Mobil 1 AFE 0w-30 has the Dexos image, but it doesn't list Dexos among the oil's approvals. The page for the 5w-30 has both the Dexos image and Dexos approval listing. There has to be an error in there somewhere...
_________________________
2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
Castrol GTX 5w-20

Top
#3197042 - 11/24/13 08:17 PM Re: Why no M1 AFE for my wifes STS? [Re: d00df00d]
HangFire Offline


Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 1793
Loc: Central Maryland
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Mobil's page for Mobil 1 AFE 0w-30 has the Dexos image, but it doesn't list Dexos among the oil's approvals. The page for the 5w-30 has both the Dexos image and Dexos approval listing. There has to be an error in there somewhere...


If you click the logo for Dexos it leads to a page which leads here... and has Mobil 1 0w-30 on it.

http://centerforqa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31&Itemid=74

This might be the missing data entry causing the web selector to hiccup.
_________________________
Various musings: http://hangfire.net

Top