what current oil is similar/same as exxon superflo

[ziggy]

Morning all! been readin on exxon superflow,i know discontinued. It shows a very nice add pack, and many if not all here like loved the stuff! Last time i ever used this stuff was back in 1995! But for many years, so it stocked at my local autozone. Now its gone. I did read, mobils website, mobil special replaced it. Some say its a step below the superflo, others say its the same or near 5000clean. I do remember reading ome sheets, showing superflow had like 115 of moly in it, something like that, and overall was good reliable cheap oil...
By todays standards, what would in reality, be its replacement? the mobil special seems to have not much an add pack, just basic oil...not nearly the same as sueprflo..and the 5000 seems to be a step above it. Its a curiosity thing, i miss using it, wish mobil never discontinued it...if they were smart at mobil, theyde bring it back witht he same add pack, but SN rated. sell it cheap, word gets around this is top shelf oil, double-triple your profits.

 

[demarpaint]

IIRC it was Mobil Super when both products were being made, I think. http://www.mobil.com/USA-English-LCW/carengineoils_products_mobil-super-5w30.aspx

 

[PhillyJoe]

If they still made Superflo, it wouldn't have the add pack you remember anyway. Most oils have changed their chemistry to meet tougher standards for fuel and cat efficiency. Mobil Super became the go-to oil for those looking for Superflo.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Exxon Superflo was the very first oil I ever used back in the mid 80s.

 

[demarpaint]

XOM Historians, was there ever an overlap of Superflo and Super at any point in time?

 

[skellyman]

XOM still offers a product called Mobil Special.
IIRC it's close to Superflo , though it's only available thru special orders.

 

[tommygunn]

The oil you are looking for is Mobil Special.

Mobil Special replaces Exxon Superflo

It is available at Target.

 

[skellyman]

Typical Properties


Mobil Special 5W-20 5W-30* 10W-30* 10W-40 20W-50
API Service Classification SN SN SN SN SN
Gravity, API 33.1 33.0 31.3 31.3 29.3
Specific Gravity 0.8596 0.8600 0.8692 0.870 0.88
Pour Point, °C (°F ) -36(-33) -36(-33) -33(-27) -33(-27) -33(-27)
Flash Point, °C (°F), ASTM D 92 224(435) 220(428) 220(428) 224(435) 230(446)
Viscosity
cSt at 40°C 49.2 60.42 69.4 107 154
cSt at 100°C 8.6 10.2 10.6 15.4 19.0
CCS, cP 5800@-30 ºC 6100@-30 ºC 6430@-25 ºC 6400@-20ºC 4290@-15ºC
MRV, cP 26,400@-35 ºC 29,330@-35 ºC 19,892@-30 ºC 25,000@-25ºC 16,000@-20ºC
Viscosity Index 153 157 141 152 140
Resource Conserving YES YES YES NO NO

 

[Ken2]

Ziggy,
--It doesn't matter. All the top brand oils are excellent.

--All the oils are different from years past. As noted above, every one has changed due to the tougher oil standards.

Any of ExxonMobil's Mobil branded oils will do a great job. Or Shell's Pennzoil or Quaker State branded oils. Or ConocoPhillips Kendall, Conoco, or Phillips branded oils. Or Chevron or Chevron's Texaco branded oils. Or Valvoline. Or.... You can't go wrong with any good brand. The only bad brands are some fly-by-night brands usually sold in convenience stores.

 

[y_p_w]

Originally Posted By: Ken2
Any of ExxonMobil's Mobil branded oils will do a great job. Or Shell's Pennzoil or Quaker State branded oils. Or ConocoPhillips Kendall, Conoco, or Phillips branded oils. Or Chevron or Chevron's Texaco branded oils. Or Valvoline. Or.... You can't go wrong with any good brand. The only bad brands are some fly-by-night brands usually sold in convenience stores.

Even some of the convenience store oils are more than acceptable when they're blended by major distributors like Warren or Pinnacle. These days it's not that difficult to get a fully formulated additive package from Lubrizol, Infineum, or Oronite, along with the base oils.

https://www.oronite.com/products/gf5.asp
https://www.oronite.com/products/OLOA54050.asp
http://www.infineum.com/Pages/pcmo.aspx
http://www.lubrizol.com/EngineOilAdditives/PassengerCar/default.html

The additive packs are already fully formulated with everything (including VI improvers) and guaranteed to meet API SN and viscosity requirements.

 

[Merkava_4]

When I had my 1978 Cadillac with the 7.0L V8, the oil it liked the most was 20W-50 Exxon Superflo. That oil made the engine so quiet, all you could hear while you're standing in front of the engine is the rubber belts rolling over the pulleys and the air getting sucked into the carburetor. We're talking quiet!

 

[HangFire]

Originally Posted By: tommygunn
The oil you are looking for is Mobil Special.

Mobil Special replaces Exxon Superflo

It is available at Target.


Here is the spec page that tommygunn's linked page is supposed to link to:

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSENPVLMOMobil_Special.aspx

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
XOM Historians, was there ever an overlap of Superflo and Super at any point in time?

There certainly was in Canada, yes. At one point, the gas stations were carrying mostly Esso products, whereas the chains (i.e. Canadian Tire, Superstore, and so forth) were carrying the Mobil Super. You could get either at Imperial Oil. The Esso PCMO products disappeared up here with the switch to SN/GF-5 and the Esso HDEO products vanished when CJ-4 came in.

If my recollection is correct, the first Mobil Super product I saw was rated SJ or SL. It was pretty hard to come across Delvac products before CJ-4 in this neck of the woods, and my dad bought all his HDEOs from Imperial Oil.

 

[artificialist]

The most basic Mobil conventional oil was very close to Superflo during the Exxon Mobil merger.

What really makes me laugh is how many OEM fluids have the same style bottle as Exxon Superflo.

 

[tommygunn]

Originally Posted By: artificialist

What really makes me laugh is how many OEM fluids have the same style bottle as Exxon Superflo.


ALL XOM oils use that same bottle, except for US-market M1. The M1 sold in Europe uses the same bottle as our non-M1 oil. (M1 ESP sold in Pep Boys uses the European M1 bottle/US non-M1 bottle)

TGMO, ST (in some areas), AC Delco, Exxon Superflo and its replacement Mobil Special, to Mobil Super, even Mobil Super Synthetic!

COP does the same thing, Motorcraft, Honda oil, Kendall, TropArtic, OBOD

WPP also does it! I don't know if they make any OEM oils, but all of their oil comes in the same bottles (except Mag 1 synthetic's clear bottles, although ST Syn used to use them and I wish they would again--clear bottles are awesome!)

Probably EVERY oil company does this except Ashland. Valvoline uses a different bottle than Ashland-made house blends (think Napa, Auto Extra, etc)

But wait, Castrol is an exception, right? Nope! OEM Castrol products use the same bottle as any non-US Castrol. European Edge, Magnatec, etc use the same bottle as TWS, Professional OE, SLX, etc.

I wish the oil companies would just use the international bottles over here--they look so much cooler!

 

[ziggy]

Very interesting! and skully! outstanding on the breakdown info! kudos too you!!!
I stopped at a exxon gas station last night...near me. they had oil in the back, but some off no name brand. I went too my local global mart/gas station last night as well, where i saw the mobil special...to my dismay...he had 1* 5w30 bottle, a few 10w 30 bottles, and like 27-32 bottles of 10w 40...sae as mag1 oil,. and the special..i didnt ask the guy, but the price sticker on 3 bottles i looked at......drum roll.....$7.49 a quart*

 

[Garak]

You'd have a chuckle if you walked into an Esso station up here. You're more likely to find a bottle of PYB than any Mobil products.

Esso up here still sells washer fluid as an Esso brand. The only other product I could find on my Imperial Oil sell sheet that was actually an Esso branded product was Esso Rad coolant. Brake fluid might still be available as an Esso branded product, since I've never heard of Mobil brake fluid. The Esso version (and their PSF) was very common at Esso stations at one time.

 

[hardcore302]

I was just gonna say that I see Mobil Special all the time and Target.

 

[ziggy]

hmm i keep reading this here, mobil special at target..imma check them out, google it in..
I wonder though, is Exon gas the same as mobil gasoline? or are they differnet add pack gasolines? Ive used exxon ONCE in my life over a decade ago. At the time, it was local too me about 1.5 miles away. It was close too the merritt parkway exit 35..high ridge road here in stamford. It was run by a guy from afirca, looked like he was in some militant rebel group, eyes always bloodshot....creepy tough looking guy..
Got a tank once of thier 87 for my 95 neon. the car after getting the gas thier, pre ignited? when yuo hear marbles in the engine n pistons : X..... never went back and never had that issue with any other brand or place of gas.
I also remember the station area thier, it was FILTHY thier wa more black oil that built up on hte concrete than thier was concrete thier...thats disgusting and a health violation , environment.
exxon gas the same thing as mobil gas? or are they exclusivley diff add packks?

 

[ziggy]

Looking at PQIA's website, and comparing add pack, pour, flash points, TBN volatily, it is clear to me, mobil clean 5000 replacess superflo..yet mobil's website lists spcecail, when its no where near the same add packs of both. seems like someone thier at mobil has got thier prioritys outta whack. i dont work for them and figured it out with a pen n paper comparing the info..
maybe its a typo? which i doubt mobil made. But what made them think specail replaced suyperflo, when clean 5000 is clearly and virtually the same?