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#3171821 - 10/29/13 07:36 PM New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Just saw this on their website!

http://www.fuchs-europe.com/products/lub...passenger0.html

TITAN Supersyn
LONGLIFE
SAE 0W-40

Ultra High Performance, fuel-economy engine oil for a variety of vehicles with or without extended service intervals. Excellent cold starting and lower oil consumption.

ACEA A3 / B4
API SN

Approvals:
MB-APPROVAL 229.5
PORSCHE A40

Recommended for:
MG
ASTON-MARTIN
BMW LONGLIFE-01
FORD M2C937-A

Requesting a copy of the PDS right now smile

Current list of their oils for those interested:

http://www.fuchs-europe.com/fileadmin/fu...r_2-2013_GB.pdf
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#3171824 - 10/29/13 07:37 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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If someone will sell it to me for $5/qt delivered, I'll buy it. smile
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#3171828 - 10/29/13 07:41 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Odd that it's called "longlife" just like the BMW approval, but it isn't formally approved. They also didn't go for VW 502/505.

No "XTL" in the name either...
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#3171869 - 10/29/13 08:16 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: dparm]
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Originally Posted By: dparm
Odd that it's called "longlife" just like the BMW approval, but it isn't formally approved. They also didn't go for VW 502/505.

No "XTL" in the name either...


Nope, the XTL oils don't have a 0w-40 or an LL-01 oil IIRC frown
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#3171891 - 10/29/13 08:29 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dparm
Odd that it's called "longlife" just like the BMW approval, but it isn't formally approved. They also didn't go for VW 502/505.

No "XTL" in the name either...


Nope, the XTL oils don't have a 0w-40 or an LL-01 oil IIRC frown



They do have XTL in both 5w30 and 5w40 LL-04 oils, which meets LL-01.
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#3171921 - 10/29/13 08:50 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: dparm]
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dparm
Odd that it's called "longlife" just like the BMW approval, but it isn't formally approved. They also didn't go for VW 502/505.

No "XTL" in the name either...


Nope, the XTL oils don't have a 0w-40 or an LL-01 oil IIRC frown



They do have XTL in both 5w30 and 5w40 LL-04 oils, which meets LL-01.


Isn't LL-04 low-SAPS though? or at least mid-SAPS? I was under the impression that LL-01 was full-SAPS shrug
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#3171972 - 10/29/13 09:24 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Loc: Australia
AFAIK, only Fuchs GT1 mid/low Saps formulas have XTL technology.

Supersyn is full Saps (LL01)
GT1 is mid/low Saps (LL04)

They seem to recommend GT1 over the Supersyn, even for my '95 Fiat, GT1 5w40 is their prime recommendation.


Edited by supercity (10/29/13 09:28 PM)

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#3171979 - 10/29/13 09:28 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
dparm Offline


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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dparm
Odd that it's called "longlife" just like the BMW approval, but it isn't formally approved. They also didn't go for VW 502/505.

No "XTL" in the name either...


Nope, the XTL oils don't have a 0w-40 or an LL-01 oil IIRC frown



They do have XTL in both 5w30 and 5w40 LL-04 oils, which meets LL-01.


Isn't LL-04 low-SAPS though? or at least mid-SAPS? I was under the impression that LL-01 was full-SAPS shrug



Yes, but I thought that all LL-04 oils are okay to use in LL-01 applications? BMW has even spec'd some LL-04 oils for LL-01 cars; for shorter intervals I wouldn't be worried.
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#3171985 - 10/29/13 09:30 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Gives me that uncomfortable feeling though wink
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#3172005 - 10/29/13 09:45 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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I'd be very interested to see the specs on this once you get them!
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#3172029 - 10/29/13 09:58 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: dailydriver]
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Originally Posted By: dailydriver
I'd be very interested to see the specs on this once you get them!


I suspect it will be HTHS of 3.6 or 3.7, with a VI in the mid-170s. Probably a TBN around 10.
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#3172043 - 10/29/13 10:09 PM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
If someone will sell it to me for $5/qt delivered, I'll buy it. smile

That's the problem with any oil brand when you can buy M1 0W40 5-qt for $25. It's very very difficult to find a better oil for the same amount or less.

If you don't have WM around (very few people do) then normal price of $8-9 a quart at auto pats store can be beat.
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#3172145 - 10/30/13 12:35 AM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Maybe we should give M1 a handicap, just to give the others a chance. laugh


Edited by supercity (10/30/13 12:36 AM)

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#3172423 - 10/30/13 10:06 AM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: supercity]
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Originally Posted By: supercity
Maybe we should give M1 a handicap, just to give the others a chance. laugh


If you're outside the US, it does seem to have a massive handicap -- price.
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#3172437 - 10/30/13 10:17 AM Re: New oil: Fuchs TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 0W-40 [Re: dparm]
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Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: supercity
Maybe we should give M1 a handicap, just to give the others a chance. laugh


If you're outside the US, it does seem to have a massive handicap -- price.

In Germany and other EU countries you can get it onAmazon for the same price as Castrol or SHell.
However, Castrol i the EU is MUCH better the Castrol in the US, so there is no that popular belief that one is so much better then the other one, nor you have just one Castrol that is premium product (GC).
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