Originally Posted By: JethroBodine
Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Originally Posted By: moving2
kschachn- and how do you know Toyota didn't use this design to lead more people into their dealerships for service / tools? This seems to be the more common sense answer vs. your hand-waving "magical engineering" assumption. Afterall, making the oil filter work with a standard oil filter wrench isn't rocket science.
Toyota and other car makers are going to cartridge style filters because it is "greener" in terms of wast and recycle costs.
Processing traditional metal can filters for recycling is a pain as most still retain quite a bit oil that has to be squeezed out and then the media separated from metal can for the metal to be recycled.
+1 Exactly....that apparently has eluded some "engineers".
And, of course, both of your responses grasp at low hanging fruit while totally avoiding the main point: the design choice to require a special tool vs. more standard tools. It's no surprise that this point evades "non-engineers" who prefer to hand wave about a "technical sophistication" that they are unqualified, and apparently unable, to describe.
Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Originally Posted By: moving2
kschachn- and how do you know Toyota didn't use this design to lead more people into their dealerships for service / tools? This seems to be the more common sense answer vs. your hand-waving "magical engineering" assumption. Afterall, making the oil filter work with a standard oil filter wrench isn't rocket science.
Toyota and other car makers are going to cartridge style filters because it is "greener" in terms of wast and recycle costs.
Processing traditional metal can filters for recycling is a pain as most still retain quite a bit oil that has to be squeezed out and then the media separated from metal can for the metal to be recycled.
+1 Exactly....that apparently has eluded some "engineers".
And, of course, both of your responses grasp at low hanging fruit while totally avoiding the main point: the design choice to require a special tool vs. more standard tools. It's no surprise that this point evades "non-engineers" who prefer to hand wave about a "technical sophistication" that they are unqualified, and apparently unable, to describe.