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#3129062 - 09/18/13 08:54 PM Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason
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I was thinking about buying the weakest oil such as City Star and buying one of those super duper fortified additives and mixing it to proper ratios. Then perform a VOA to see what kind of oil I would get. Obviously nothing is as good as a good oil to begin with. I would not do this to use in my vehicles (or 30 yr old OPE for that matter). I would not use oils that PQIA has shown to have high iron or any other metals such as this. I kind of have a mechanics bet riding on this. A co worker of mine says you can use a cheap oil and fortify it with an additive and make it as good as a quality oil. I disagree.
Any suggestions as far as oils and additives?

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#3129076 - 09/18/13 09:04 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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How about Lucas for a cheap oil?

Seriously though, how are you planning to measure the "quality" of the product? A VOA alone might pick out an exceptionally bad oil, but it isn't going to tell you much about how "good" an oil is when you get to anything halfway decent or better.

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#3129078 - 09/18/13 09:06 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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Just send me the good additives. I will put them to good use and save you the cost of an analysis.
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#3129104 - 09/18/13 09:59 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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Not sure it would help....these oils have other issues as well...
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#3129106 - 09/18/13 10:01 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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You're Dave. Iron comes to mind as well as not being in grade.

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#3129157 - 09/18/13 11:15 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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I woukd ask your co-worker, what is the point?

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#3129239 - 09/19/13 06:11 AM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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Originally Posted By: Michael_P
I was thinking about buying the weakest oil such as City Star and buying one of those super duper fortified additives and mixing it to proper ratios. Then perform a VOA to see what kind of oil I would get. Obviously nothing is as good as a good oil to begin with. I would not do this to use in my vehicles (or 30 yr old OPE for that matter). I would not use oils that PQIA has shown to have high iron or any other metals such as this. I kind of have a mechanics bet riding on this. A co worker of mine says you can use a cheap oil and fortify it with an additive and make it as good as a quality oil. I disagree.
Any suggestions as far as oils and additives?


Tell your coworker to always buy the best oil Family Dollar sells and the best snake oil additive and he will be happy with the results. It can be tried out on my ex wife's Mercedes.


Edited by Donald (09/19/13 06:12 AM)
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#3130010 - 09/19/13 08:12 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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I would never try it. Often those oils are the wrong viscosity, made with a really cheap base stock.
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#3130916 - 09/20/13 06:03 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: Michael_P]
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This is what I was kind of thinking. I'm losing interest on this bet.

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#3130923 - 09/20/13 06:17 PM Re: Thinking of burning $40 for no good reason [Re: artificialist]
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Originally Posted By: artificialist
I would never try it. Often those oils are the wrong viscosity, made with a really cheap base stock.


For sure. In addition to wrong viscosities, they have other issues such as contaminants.


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A co worker of mine says you can use a cheap oil and fortify it with an additive and make it as good as a quality oil. I disagree.


And you would be correct.
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