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Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: kimandsally] #3947065
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Great info guys. Have been interested in trying Archoil 9100 in my 2014 powerstroke 6.7 F550. Mainly for its cleaning abilities and potential lubrication (improvements?) for the turbo. Been trying to find real world (data) that it actually works. Most compelling evidence is how it helps Powerstoke 6.0 with cold injector stiction which may or may not translate into anything (proof wise). Thanks for sharing your experience Keesue.

Has anyone looked into the Archoil case studies (I believe found on their EU site)? Do they appear to be extensive enough to be creditable?


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Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: kimandsally] #3998084
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I was doing some reading on Archoil products and found where I had posted when we got our first gallon of AR9100 and quart of AR6200. Recently we started on our second gallon of AR9100 but still have AR6200 left.

The AR9100 does seem to clean the crankcase of a dirty engine from just looking inside with the oil fill cap removed.

I used Lubegard Red and Platinum for the first time last week. I put it in an Aisin Warner AWF21 six speed transmission in the 2006 Ford Five Hundred we purchased a couple weeks ago. The owner said the ATF had never been changed but the oil was changed every 5K miles at the Ford dealer where he worked as a salesman.

My point is like AR9100 the Lubegard marketing materials talks about the esters is what cleans up cleans up the valve body, servos, etc in an automatic transmission. Archoil talks about adding 3 oz of AR9100 per gallon of ATF in the system to make it work better. I expect the esters play a role but I have never put AR9100 in a transmission yet.

What I still do not know about AR9100 is its long term effect. I think the esters in it and Lubegard may be a major value in both products.

The 3.0L Ford V6 engine is clean as a new one and from the Ford dealer OCI sticker they used the 5W-20 Motor Craft blend. Using quality motor oil and filter seems to be all that it takes to keep a new engine clean for its first 110K miles. smile

The transmission seemed to be shifting fine. Before I do bucket flushes by removing ATF cooling lines at the cooler I like to run Seafoam and now Seafoam Trans Tune for 200-300 miles before doing the flush when it is hot.

I noticed especially hard downshifting and some tach flickering when shifting from 4th to OD1 but not to OD2 or any other shifts. I took the flickering to be some slipping going on. I was not paying attention and had just bought the car so I do not this was from adding 8 oz of Seafoam or not.

I had purchased 2 quarts of Lubegard Red and 1 quart of Lubegard Platinum so I put in 8 oz of Lubegard Red and the other half of can of Seafoam Trans Tune. The hard down shifting stopped within 50 miles.

It has D and 1 options and it was using the 1 position where I learned about the hard downshifting. As it turns out in position 1 only gears 1 and 2 are active. When the tack hits 3700 RPM it will shift to 2nd gear but not more at higher RPM's. The computer will down shift to 1st gear when the RPM's drop to 1700 RPM's. Before I added the 8 oz of Lubegard that computer controlled downshift was HARSH. After driving it 50 miles I used position 1 again an while it was fast and positive it did not hammer like before adding the Lubegard Red.

After I pushed out a gallon of the old ATF I then pushed out 2 gallons of new Mobil 3309 ATF out and then refilled with about a total of 3.5 quarts topping it off with 16 oz of Lubegard Platinum. By mouth I blew the ATF out of the cooler and return line before the first pump down is how I got a gallon out on the first pumping by starting the engine.

The oil change per the window sticker had 3K miles on the last change and the oil looked clean when I added 8 oz of AR9100 to the crankcase and I have driven it about 600 miles and the oil still looks fairly clean but then there was no signs of build up in the engine when we got the car. I have an appointment with the local Ford dealer for service tomorrow.

Saturday we leave for St. Paul MN and should put 2000 miles on it by this time next week. I will dump 8 more oz of AR9100 after the oil change tomorrow. I know the computer reports 30 MPG on relative level roads at 55 MPH and will be interested what it will report at Interstate speeds.

It had high end tires with the thread at the wear markers but I lucked out and got a nearly new set Arctic Claw Winter TXI M&S tires for $125 from a tire store I have been doing business with for years. No one around here runs snow tires because we just do not get much snow but the next day we got a big snow and that car would go and stop better than anything I ever drove. Yes the snow tires make a little noise but I only notice it at lower speeds. This is the wrong time of the year for a redneck from KY to be going almost to Canada but that is where the MN Mutual Insurance Carriers hold their annual meeting. smile

Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: kimandsally] #3999413
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GaleHawkins, any thoughts about Archoil AR9200 and AR9300?

Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: SR1919] #4561696
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Originally Posted By: SR1919
GaleHawkins, any thoughts about Archoil AR9200 and AR9300?


SR1919 I have not worked with the AR9200 or AR9300 but have received our 5th gallon jug of Archoil AR9100.

I am doing a full car use test (2010 Subaru Forester 2.5X with 105K miles as of Aug 2017) of AR9100 by adding 1 oz. to the oil power steering fluid (plan to flush it some day) but we it hot drain of engine, 4EAT ATF (bucket flush actually), and both front and rear differentials and refilled with owner manual spec fluids and added the Archoil AR9100 to specs on the jug in all five fluids.

So far all is well. Auto transmission up shifts were fine but driving it in Manual shifting mode initially the forced down shifts were HARD but now they are smooth. Keep in mind just flushing out the old fluids and going back with new could have done the trick.

We just picked up a 1966 Ford 3000 diesel tractor two weeks ago that we are rehabing and AR9100 is going into everything except the radiator and fuel tank. It is now in the engine, injector pump, power steering, transmission and differential/lift system.

We do not know the hours on the tractor but the engine pulls strongly and is relative clean (major oil leaks) compared to other 51 year old diesel tractors we looked at recently.

I did add a quart of AR9100 to the hydraulic/gear box common sump of the 1983 John Deere 310B backhoe but after a few hours of usage I have not noticed anything different.

We use AR9100 in about 10 engines around the place. It seems the diesel engines oil stays clear longer now.

All I can say after a few years of using Archoil AR9100 is I have not had any negative experiences. It really went against the grain to add it to a working 8 year old Subaru automatic transmission but Archoil has it as a labeled use so I went full bore in this Subaru and now Ford 3000 tractor.

Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: kschachn] #4561953
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Even worse than trying to interpret a wear metal number from a UOA would be trying to attribute the difference to the additive.


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Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: GaleHawkins] #4561960
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Originally Posted By: GaleHawkins


I did add a quart of AR9100 to the hydraulic/gear box common sump of the 1983 John Deere 310B backhoe but after a few hours of usage I have not noticed anything different.


So what should one expect from a friction modifier in a hydraulic system?

Originally Posted By: GaleHawkins
We use AR9100 in about 10 engines around the place. It seems the diesel engines oil stays clear longer now...



Does that mean the Archoil is interferring with the detergents and dispersants in the HD oil?

HD oils are formulated with high levels of detergents and dispersants so as to scoop up and suspend soot and other hydrocarbon particulates, hence HD oils should darken from soot and other hydrocarbon particulates during operation.

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Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: MolaKule] #4561962
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Originally Posted By: GaleHawkins
We use AR9100 in about 10 engines around the place. It seems the diesel engines oil stays clear longer now...

Does that mean the Archoil is interferring with the detergents and dispersants in the HD oil?

HD oils are formulated with high levels of detergents and dispersants so as to scoop up and suspend soot and other hydrocarbon particulates, hence they should darken from soot and other hydrocarbon particulates.

I was going to ask that as well, kind of like the recent thread when a person said they didn't like the OEM air filter because it got "filthy" looking whereas an aftermarket one did not.


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Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: kimandsally] #4563538
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This should be interesting,I'm going hunting this weekend but dying to get back to hear results.I use AR9100 in crankcase and thats it. Going back to Ceratec soon and for good.


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Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: MolaKule] #4846399
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Originally Posted By: GaleHawkins


I did add a quart of AR9100 to the hydraulic/gear box common sump of the 1983 John Deere 310B backhoe but after a few hours of usage I have not noticed anything different.


So what should one expect from a friction modifier in a hydraulic system?

Originally Posted By: GaleHawkins
We use AR9100 in about 10 engines around the place. It seems the diesel engines oil stays clear longer now...



Does that mean the Archoil is interferring with the detergents and dispersants in the HD oil?

HD oils are formulated with high levels of detergents and dispersants so as to scoop up and suspend soot and other hydrocarbon particulates, hence HD oils should darken from soot and other hydrocarbon particulates during operation.


While I can not speak to friction modifiers in general but when it comes to Archoil AR9100 it cleans (esters) and is to reduce friction between moving parts. I have since started using AR9100 in automatic transmissions to do both. I have 15K miles on the 2010 Subaru 4 speed auto (now at 120K total miles)and 3K miles on the 6R80 behind 5.4L in the 2010 F150 (now at 208K total miles) and the shifting is great and without lag time.

Servos getting dirty can be major fail point in hydraulic systems as well as friction.

There was one post about oil/hydraulic filters catching more particles out of the fluid after being treated with Archoil AR9100. On a tractor that has not had the oil changed in about four years and the Shell Rotella T6 is not as clear now as it was for the first couple years so I will pick up a new filter perhaps and add a quart or just run it a quart low. If the oil clears back up we know the dark stuff went into the white filter materials perhaps.

I do not advise others to use additives or not use additives because I believe in Free Will.

Re: Ordered Archoil [Re: kimandsally] #4972870
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As an update all is still well end to end in the 2010 Subaru Forester after an addition 10K miles of running Archoil AR9100 in engine, front and rear differentials, 4 speed Auto ATF and the power steering. Recently I did slow and WOT take offs noting how it shifted. Shifts were solid with no slippage. I run in Manual mode about 1/3 of the time and the downshifts are nice and solid but the computer will not permit a downshift if it would red line the RPM's like most modern vehicles.

I have put another 4K miles on the 2010 Ford F-150 six speed Auto with the Archoil AR9100 still in the transmission and it is still shifting well. I did add a spin on inline ATF filter in front of the tow package extra cooler in front of the radiator. Shifting to H4X and L4X was hard until we drained the transfer case and refilled with one quart of Transfer case ATF then added 4 oz of AR9100 then topped off the refill with the same ATF.

Now shifting down and back up to 2x is much smoother. Since it got new ATF and AR9100 in the transfer case at the same point in time there is no way to know which lead to more dependable and solid shifting but I like the no grinding sound.

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