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What is Cam Guard? #3099923
08/19/13 06:30 PM
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Taildragger Offline OP
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ASL Camguard

I use this combined with Phillips X/C 20W50. What is in it and how does it work?

( Lycoming O320, 160hp.)

Last edited by Taildragger; 08/19/13 06:31 PM.

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Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3099944
08/19/13 06:57 PM
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Where do you get it?


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Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3100007
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snake oil would be my guess


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Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3100219
08/20/13 04:40 AM
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I use Camguard, mostly in the Winter. I try to fly my plane at least 30 minutes inside every 2 weeks, usually well inside that window. If you look at the Camguard ratio on the container you don't need the full can for most 7 Qt oil changes. With that in mind I only put 1/2 pint in most of the time.

I'm a real skeptic of the different sales pitches, but I do have some faith in Camguard. I do think flying routinely means more though. I usually order a can at times with my Aircraft Spruce orders. I have a Warrior with an 0320 engine.

Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3100374
08/20/13 08:39 AM
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CamGuard is a concentrated cocktail of anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-rust, and anti-corrosion additives. It is well tested and well respected in private aviation.

Tom NJ

Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3105905
08/26/13 07:09 AM
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For the last couple of years, our corporate flight department has been using Camguard on our piston powered toys. We borescope our engines every year, as FL and corrosion go hand in hand. We've had our share of corrosion issues.

Anyway, last years borescope went better than expected. With no internal cylinder corrosion. Something I think Camguard would not prevent. As the cylinders are generally dry inside. But, the tiny oil film that remains in the cylinder hone may be enough... we shall see.

This year's borescope is coming up in Sep/Oct and it will be interesting to see if any internal corrosion has developed. We can see a number of the cam lobes, the crankshaft counterweights and connecting rods. Corrosion normally starts on the counterweight plugs and then on the small end of the connecting rods.

Others have tested Camguard in the lab and shown good results. I'm simply taking a wait and see approach.

By the way, it has a distinctive, sharp, exhaust smell. And, upon startup, and sometimes on descent, you can tell the oil has Camguard in it.


Last edited by Cujet; 08/26/13 07:11 AM.

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Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3665924
03/15/15 02:25 PM
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were can it be sourced?



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Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3665955
03/15/15 02:55 PM
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JR, I get many of my aviation chemicals from a place called Aircraft Spruce and Speciality Co. in Peachtree City, Georgia. They have warehouses in a couple of places across the country.

You can search for Aircraft Spruce and then just search for CamGuard. It's a bit pricey at $24.50 a pint though.

Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3666192
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A couple of years down the road, it seems Camguard is helping with internal engine corrosion. Borescopes show zero cylinder corrosion. This has traditionally been a problem with our Lycoming engines.

Disclaimer: I can't prove Camguard is the reason I'm not seeing internal engine corrosion. But it sure seems like it's been the cure.


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Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3729520
05/13/15 05:26 PM
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Does Camguard has Polyol Ester + TCP + PEA?

The claims: It's a Deposit Cleaner, Anti-rust, Seal swell, anti-oxidant ...

Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Tom NJ] #3730467
05/14/15 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tom NJ
CamGuard is a concentrated cocktail of anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-rust, and anti-corrosion additives. It is well tested and well respected in private aviation.

Tom NJ


Scars remind us of where we have been, but do not have to dictate where we are going.
Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3730513
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No disclosures of the cocktail, though...

Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Pontual] #3730591
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Originally Posted By: Pontual
No disclosures of the cocktail, though...


Correct.


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Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3730978
05/14/15 11:26 PM
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Fine.

Re: What is Cam Guard? [Re: Taildragger] #3731175
05/15/15 06:50 AM
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Most companies do not disclose their proprietary formulations. I happen to be a friend of the formulator so I am familiar with the product and its testing, although I do not know all of the ingredients and I am not at liberty to disclose what I do know.

Tom NJ

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