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#3057432 - 07/07/13 05:05 PM What does this car probably need?
renegade_987 Offline


Registered: 04/07/11
Posts: 1554
Loc: Ankeny, IA
Hey guys, in browsing Craigslist today I came across a 1999 Saturn SL-1. It states that the car needs some work, and I was going to move on, until I saw that hes only asking $350! It says that it runs rough and (sometimes) when its put into gear, it dies. Im thinking MAF sensor, IAC, or vaccum leak. Any input? Should I scoop it up and take the risk? Thanks!
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#3057439 - 07/07/13 05:15 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
cmorr Offline


Registered: 12/10/06
Posts: 621
Loc: Exeter Twp, PA
Hard to say based on your input but I would bet it's not a simple fix considering the $. May part out for more then $350

Techno-GHT is probably on his way to Iowa
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#3057442 - 07/07/13 05:15 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
MrQuackers Offline


Registered: 08/17/12
Posts: 1998
Loc: Oregon
Small risk, large possible reward. What is the auto wrecker value? You could always part it out if it looks like it will be a money pit. Hard to lose at this price.
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#3057447 - 07/07/13 05:22 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
NHGUY Offline


Registered: 10/09/11
Posts: 4803
Loc: USA
Torque converter clutch is stuck.

Car also probably has rear suspension rust and leaky piston rings.Typical Saturn.

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#3057468 - 07/07/13 05:49 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
GreeCguy Offline


Registered: 03/21/05
Posts: 2688
Loc: Elderly County, Florida
If you're really going to follow through on this, you need to talk to the seller and get a feel for their knowledge on fixing cars. If they seem like they know what they're doing and talking about, chances are they've thought about fixing it but don't want to due to cost and or how difficult the job will be. That should be a red flag right there.

Even buying it and parting it out is a gamble. If there's something wrong with the motor, who in their right mind is going to buy the motor. Likewise if it's a car with a lot of miles on it - everything is going to have a lot of miles on it - so what are you selling but a lot of worn parts.

I've done a little bit of that myself - I used to buy cars at police auctions and abandoned vehicle auctions. I'd pay 100 bucks for a car and part it out or I would buy two or three of the same kind of car and use parts off one to fix the other, sell it and sell the other for scrap. You can make some money on it but it is a lot of work and you do run the risk of getting burned.
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#3057472 - 07/07/13 05:53 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
GreeCguy Offline


Registered: 03/21/05
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Loc: Elderly County, Florida
Just a little side note - be sure and factor everything into your investment as this is going to cost you more than 350 dollars. For example, title transfer and cost of transporting car from buyers location to your location, (I'm guessing it will have to be towed since it's not running well).
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#3057475 - 07/07/13 05:55 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: cmorr]
GreeCguy Offline


Registered: 03/21/05
Posts: 2688
Loc: Elderly County, Florida
Originally Posted By: cmorr
Hard to say based on your input but I would bet it's not a simple fix considering the $. May part out for more then $350

Techno-GHT is probably on his way to Iowa


That's assuming his Taurus will get him there.
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#3057480 - 07/07/13 06:00 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: cmorr]
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Registered: 03/02/12
Posts: 5133
Loc: chicago, Illinois
Originally Posted By: cmorr
Hard to say based on your input but I would bet it's not a simple fix considering the $. May part out for more then $350

Techno-GHT is probably on his way to Iowa
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#3057484 - 07/07/13 06:02 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 31021
Loc: ME
Buy it! You can always resell it later for $500 if you change your mind or are in over your head. $350 for anything that might make it home is a bargain.

They do not have MAF sensors. They run on speed density/ MAP.

Possibly the coolant temp sensor has gone south, flooding it with gas.

Call the guy-- don't email. Tell him you're coming right over. Beat an address out of him. If someone else also has the address you make sure you show up first!

When you get there check the surge tank for oil in the coolant and check the motor oil for presence and inky sludge.

If the coolant sensor doesn't do it for you, slap a crank sensor on it and do a full tune up with cheap copper plugs. Remove the bolts holding the coil packs down and check for rust; these bolts ground the coils and need to be clean.

I've had a bunch of these cars and it doesn't take much to get them in good nick. Also read up on saturnfans.com but buy the car first, it's slipping through your fingers as we speak.

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#3057485 - 07/07/13 06:03 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: GreeCguy]
TechnoLoGs Offline


Registered: 04/03/13
Posts: 2606
Loc: Call it NNJ
Originally Posted By: GreeCguy
Originally Posted By: cmorr
Hard to say based on your input but I would bet it's not a simple fix considering the $. May part out for more then $350

Techno-GHT is probably on his way to Iowa


That's assuming his Taurus will get him there.


happy

No, I'm on my way to Elderly County, FL for some $100 abandoned and police auctions.

Taurus will get there just fine. Gonna buy 2 gallons Redline D4 to REALLY clean it up after pan drop. Will probably fix all problems.Can't hurt Them! (Working on next money. Taurus workey very well. I drive it.. what, like, 2500 miles in 2 weeks???....

To buy back my old car...
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#3057498 - 07/07/13 06:13 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: cmorr]
TechnoLoGs Offline


Registered: 04/03/13
Posts: 2606
Loc: Call it NNJ
Originally Posted By: cmorr
Hard to say based on your input but I would bet it's not a simple fix considering the $. May part out for more then $350

Techno-GHT is probably on his way to Iowa


For a Saturn?????????????? Nah......

For an older Ferrari or some such? Yes...............

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#3057534 - 07/07/13 06:47 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
ram_man Offline


Registered: 03/15/13
Posts: 2965
Loc: southern mo
I would ask if you can look at it and do a compression check. Tell him if the compression checks out youll pay the 350 if it doesnt make it 250. Either way a wrecker engine and a few 12packs and youll have a good car. Thats worst case scenario. I would jump on it .
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#3057560 - 07/07/13 07:15 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
Posts: 7407
Loc: North Carolina
I would assume the worst. possible blown head gasket and overheaded warping or cracking the head. If you can work on it yourself, it might still be a deal. Those cars can be rebuilt and a new clutch for 1000 if you do it yourself.
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#3060103 - 07/09/13 10:36 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: TechnoLoGs]
GreeCguy Offline


Registered: 03/21/05
Posts: 2688
Loc: Elderly County, Florida
[quote=TechnoLoGs
No, I'm on my way to Elderly County, FL for some $100 abandoned and police auctions.

[/quote]

That was 15 plus years ago when I lived in North Alabama - those 100 dollar cars are long gone - but you're welcome to visit Elderly County Florida, you could introduce your Taurus to the Bluesmobile - maybe they'll get together and make little Taurus babies.
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#3060151 - 07/09/13 11:47 PM Re: What does this car probably need? [Re: renegade_987]
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Registered: 09/30/09
Posts: 530
Loc: Michigan
Imagine if GM took a Toyota Corolla, GMed(bean counted) the [censored] out of it, totally ruining much of the quality engineering, and made the exterior body panels from plastic. That's a Saturn, its kinda like working on/living with a Japanese car of the era, except you do it more often and its rusts way worse.

Just for example, the trailing link in the rear end is so failure prone(snaps in half), GM only stopped stocking them last year. Whens the last time you heard of an import that snapped not extremely rusty suspension links in two?

The interior is also straight GM rattle machine and not very roomy at all compared to the competition, good luck if you're over 6ft.

I used to think they were decent, then I got to deal with one for a while.

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