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Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! #3040744
06/21/13 12:31 PM
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Rabbit Creek, Alaska
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So I'm going to do a couple autocrosses and a long distance trip on some of my very old stash (60s-70s) of oil and do a UOA at the end of the run for fun. I don't know what to expect but it will be interesting to me at least.

I picked up my uncles stash of oil last year from his basement when he was moving (my payment for helping him move) and then I picked up a 1973 Datsun 240Z that had not run since 1989 this May. After installing a radiator, gas tank and fuel pump in the Z, it fired right up. So lets drive this thing while restoring it and put some New "old" oil in it.

Quaker State 10w40

Here's the video of it running for the first time in 24 years
Here's the stock:





Last edited by jayg; 06/21/13 12:39 PM.

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1973 240Z 10w30 VWC from '73
1973 Triumph Bonneville 750 M1 5w50
1967 BSA 441 Victor Special M1 5w50




Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040749
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Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040752
06/21/13 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: jayg
So I'm going to do a couple autocrosses and a long distance trip on some of my very old stash (60s-70s) of oil and do a UOA at the end of the run for fun. I don't know what to expect but it will be interesting to me at least.

I picked up my uncles stash of oil last year from his basement when he was moving (my payment for helping him move) and then I picked up a 1973 Datsun 240Z that had not run since 1989 this May. After installing a radiator, gas tank and fuel pump in the Z, it fired right up. So lets drive this thing while restoring it and put some New "old" oil in it.

Quaker State 10w40

Here's the video of it running for the first time in 24 years






*Drools* One of my dream cars!!


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30

Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040753
06/21/13 12:36 PM
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planning a restoration?

Last edited by needsducktape; 06/21/13 12:36 PM.

2002 Audi A4 quattro 1.8t
158,000 miles
5-speed manual
m1 0-40 and Napa Gold filter


Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: needsducktape] #3040754
06/21/13 12:38 PM
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jayg Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: needsducktape
planning a restoration?


Sort of, good enough for a driver but not concourse stuff.


2017 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel- CP Triton ECT 5w40
2015 Prius C Napa 0w20
1973 240Z 10w30 VWC from '73
1973 Triumph Bonneville 750 M1 5w50
1967 BSA 441 Victor Special M1 5w50




Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040755
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Don't you know 70's Quaker State is made from paraffin wax and will sludge that engine up solid in 50 miles! grin


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Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040760
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Should work just fine! Let us know how it goes!


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Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040767
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Very cool!

Yes you can use some of the oil or sell it on line. You might be able to get a decent price for it.
As far as it's lubrication qualities are concerned, it's a very shear prone grade of that time period. Just make sure you can maintain adequate oil pressure if you put some miles on the oil.


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-'96 BMW 328i, 50/50 TGMO 0W-20/M1 0W-40
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Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040791
06/21/13 01:02 PM
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Yeah baby!
Looks like this car has little more than some surface rust.
A pretty nice survivor.
Old oil in an old car?
Why not?
They survived back then on the stuff.
I'd probably stay with the old time change interval of 3K, though.
Is that a Lotus lurking in the garage?


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Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: fdcg27] #3040798
06/21/13 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Yeah baby!
Looks like this car has little more than some surface rust.
A pretty nice survivor.
Old oil in an old car?
Why not?
They survived back then on the stuff.
I'd probably stay with the old time change interval of 3K, though.
Is that a Lotus lurking in the garage?


It honestly is just surface rust that I have sanded some off already. Nothing but minor pitting.

That red turd in the garage is the sleeping Ferrari 308 gt4 in my sig.


2017 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel- CP Triton ECT 5w40
2015 Prius C Napa 0w20
1973 240Z 10w30 VWC from '73
1973 Triumph Bonneville 750 M1 5w50
1967 BSA 441 Victor Special M1 5w50




Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040806
06/21/13 01:14 PM
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I'll take that red turd off your hands any day. Dibs. :-/

Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040833
06/21/13 01:34 PM
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Do you have 2 sets of wheels for the car?
I noticed that your first video, the wheels were not spoked. I prefer the non-spoked wheels wink


2003 Lexus RX300, 1MZ-FE
2011 Volvo S60, 2.0T, B4024T6
Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040835
06/21/13 01:39 PM
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Is it badged as a Ferrari or as a Dino?
IIRC, the Dino 308 GT4 2+2 preceeded the Magnum PI era 308 GTB/GTS.
Anyway, what are your plans for this red machine?
What happened to it?
Incidentally, I was not being sarcastic when I wrote "surface rust".
I was serious.
Around here, all of the daily driven early Zs rusted into pieces sometime before the end of the 'seventies.


18 Accord Hybrid FF
17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040836
06/21/13 01:40 PM
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This is awesome. Although, I'd probably baby that classic, new oil, no abuse and keep it original if it were me.

Re: Lets run 40 yr old oil in a 40 yr old Datsun! [Re: jayg] #3040840
06/21/13 01:44 PM
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Nice Car.. reminds me of my growing up days smile I'd baby it too, and only take it out on Sundays.


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