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#3022495 - 06/04/13 08:46 AM PYB 5w-20; 1k miles; Honda Civic
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I can't figure out how to post it. But I only ran the oil pyb 5w20 for 1,000 miles because at certain rpms the engine make a rattle sound. Well they said my iron was at 5 and said its a little high and could stand to read lower but everything else was great. Any opinions on this? It's on the honda civic has the. D17 engine.


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#3022505 - 06/04/13 09:04 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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5 ppm of iron at 1000 miles is really quite meaningless, I'm afraid.

As far as how to post the report, it's best if you just type it up.
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#3022520 - 06/04/13 09:17 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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Aluminum 3
Chromium 1
Iron 5
Copper 1
Lead 0
Tin 0
Molybdenum 23
Nickel 0
Manganese 0
Silver 0
Titanium 0
Potassium 0
Boron 134
Silicon 7
Sodium 6
Calcium 1717
Magnesium 206
Phosphorus 688
Zinc 818
Barium 0
Sus viscosity @210 52.5
Cst viscosity @100 8.04
Flashpoint 405
Fuel <0.5
Antifreeze 0
Water 0
Insolubles 0.2
Oil run 1,000 pyb 5w20
Oil before Mobil 1 5w30
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#3022522 - 06/04/13 09:20 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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Well, like I said before, wear metals will always be somewhat higher right at the beginning of an OCI, and then they'll level off, so they'll decrease on a per mile basis. There is nothing alarming in this UOA.
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#3022559 - 06/04/13 09:55 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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Even trying to account for the short run and the M1 you ran before, that does not look like PYB at all, although it is a 5w20 no doubt.
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#3022572 - 06/04/13 10:07 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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PYB uses much more molybdenum than this, doesn't use magnesium, and should have more calcium, too. I might ask the lab if they're sure these are the correct data.

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#3022577 - 06/04/13 10:11 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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A busted rod bearing may produce hunks of metal too large to appear in a lab particle sample.
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#3022579 - 06/04/13 10:12 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
PYB uses much more molybdenum than this, doesn't use magnesium, and should have more calcium, too. I might ask the lab if they're sure these are the correct data.


I agree, I think the magnesium came from the prior run of M1, but the calcium and moly are both way, way low for PYB even if it is a first run of it.
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#3022583 - 06/04/13 10:19 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
ram_man Offline


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Well It was just pennzoil Dino 5w20.... I don't know maybe the oil has changed ? Or they just screwed up. Took them two months to do it you would think it would be a perfect analysis.
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#3022585 - 06/04/13 10:21 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: LeakySeals]
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
A busted rod bearing may produce hunks of metal too large to appear in a lab particle sample.


I doubt it has any issues like that. We are talking about a honda that's been religiously maintained and 122,000 miles......
The noise hasn't gotten better or worse either it just there.
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#3022588 - 06/04/13 10:24 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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Originally Posted By: ram_man
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
A busted rod bearing may produce hunks of metal too large to appear in a lab particle sample.


I doubt it has any issues like that. We are talking about a honda that's been religiously maintained and 122,000 miles......
The noise hasn't gotten better or worse either it just there.

Post a video with the noise.
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#3022600 - 06/04/13 10:32 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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I don't have a video of it
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#3022653 - 06/04/13 11:15 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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Then we guessing about the rattle based on a UOA. A UOA will tell you how the oil is doing, how the engine is wearing, but may not tell you if somethings broke.
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#3022656 - 06/04/13 11:17 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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I could post a video of it but none of the other forums knew what it was either. One other guy had the same exact noise and he's had it for 5 yrs and 100,000+ miles and no issues.
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#3022664 - 06/04/13 11:21 AM Re: Got my analysis done [Re: ram_man]
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This is a bigger forum, wont hurt to post it again.
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