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#298870 - 01/08/06 07:14 PM Re: Militec-1
georgeyew Offline


Registered: 01/20/05
Posts: 80
Loc: VA
I have been using Militec 1 in my Honda for the past 50K miles (since new) and have no issues yet. I just posted a UOA a couple of weeks ago and the results were very good.

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#298871 - 01/08/06 07:42 PM Re: Militec-1
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47175
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Yes thanks George - that's the UOA I was referring to.

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#298872 - 01/08/06 07:54 PM Re: Militec-1
stogiedude Offline


Registered: 02/13/05
Posts: 319
Loc: Tampabay, Florida
So how much is Xado? I suspect it's expensive since there is no pricing information on the website that I could find. I'm always interested in new additives, I'm open minded and I'll try things to see if there is any benefit. I'm about to try AutoRX soon for the first time. If Xado isn't outrageously expensive I'll gladly try it. As far as Militec, WAY TOO EXPENSIVE IMO.

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#298873 - 01/09/06 08:07 AM Re: Militec-1
uconn1150 Offline


Registered: 03/19/03
Posts: 694
Loc: Texas
Xado is $20/dose and you need 3 doses. If you do a search on ebay you will find it. Sounds too good to be true--the principle is the same as it was for Slick 50/Engine Restore. I looked for hours yesterday looking for reviews from other countries on it, but no such luck.

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#298874 - 01/09/06 02:57 AM Re: Militec-1
jonny-b Offline


Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 1073
Loc: Norway
Then you could try this link: www.xado.co.uk This is where I bought my Xado. Anyway, this is cheap! You will get an engine that goes much better, and that will give you at least 5% of fuelsaving(on my Mercedes and my Peugot it is some 12%). The other positive thing is the noice-reduction from the engine. I have tried Auto-Rx, Militec1, QMI, Slick50 and other stuffs. The things i found was working as supposed, was the Auto-Rx the Militec1 and the Xado, and Xado have at least 3 times better effect than Auto-Rx(at least on engines that are rather clean. But, the fine thing about Xado, is that is uses the small metal particles in the oil, building a cermet(metal particles from your engine and cheramic). The cermet builds up where the friction is highest, and will ensure same compression on all cylinders. If you have rings that is stuck, you can still use Auto-Rx with no effect on the Xado. This is something that will be more known after some years, but why wait? It has been on the market at least since 2002, and have also been in use at the Paris-Dakar rally(and still is). It can restore an engine that is 90% worn out, and then I would not say that 60usd is a lot of money. Anyway, you will save that at the gas pump within 4-5 months. Nice to finally have found something that is 3 times better than adverticed.

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#298875 - 01/09/06 04:36 AM Re: Militec-1
theguru Offline


Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 988
Loc: Melb, Aus
I'm not sure that a quieter motor is necessary proof of a good additive. Thicker oil will probably do the same.

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#298876 - 01/09/06 04:42 AM Re: Militec-1
jonny-b Offline


Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 1073
Loc: Norway
Well, you haven't tried it, so what do you know? Excactly, you know nothing. Have a nice day, and remember this old saying: "Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't excist".

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#298877 - 01/09/06 06:11 AM Re: Militec-1
N2OIL Offline


Registered: 11/26/03
Posts: 232
Loc: Aviation Capital
MILITEC-1 is a chemically-reacted synthetic-based hydrocarbon derivative. At the start of the manufacturing process, MILITEC-1 is composed of a blend of several extreme pressure lubricants, natural anti-corrosion ingredients, extremely stable chlorate esters, anti-wear components, and anti-oxidant compounds. This blend is then introduced into a chemical reactor.

Pulled directly off their site [Cheers!]

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#298878 - 01/09/06 08:20 AM Re: Militec-1
bruce381 Offline


Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 3327
Loc: Millbrae, CA
chlorinated Paraffins cause heavy rust in areas of condensation like under valve covers also eats all the base out of the oil.
XADO do not know of it I would like some data other than normal marketing ** and some ones say so show me any ASTM test data or any per reviewd papers or anything that shows current lube oil test data web site has NONE.

I do not belive in any lay persons opinion that this is great stuff.
[No no]

bruce

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#298879 - 01/10/06 01:03 AM Re: Militec-1
raynorway Offline


Registered: 02/23/04
Posts: 19
Loc: Trondheim, NORWAY
"Volvo have tested and approved the use of Xado"
Yes, they have approved Xado OILS, but not the treatment...(The same as other companys have done and not done)
Have searched the net for hours to find any good references on forums etc. but found only testimonials that the company itself have put out.
Ok, it may work, and I may test it myself. Done that with Auto-RX, my official and DOCUMENTED OA is my proof. (http://www.arxco.no/diverse/P263671.HTM) Got an old B&S laying around for the purpose, just need a micrometer.. [Smile]

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#298880 - 01/19/06 01:47 AM Re: Militec-1
TomH Offline


Registered: 10/08/04
Posts: 391
Loc: Richmond, VA
N2OIL states: "MILITEC-1 is a chemically-reacted synthetic-based hydrocarbon derivative. At the start of the manufacturing process, MILITEC-1 is composed of a blend of several extreme pressure lubricants, natural anti-corrosion ingredients, extremely stable chlorate esters, anti-wear components, and anti-oxidant compounds. This blend is then introduced into a chemical reactor."
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This is true, however, you left off the ending which reads: "When MILITEC-1 emerges from our proprietary chemical reaction process, it is no longer a blend. It has been organically bound into a unique, pure, uniform single substance. In its finished form, MILITEC-1 is completely stable, so it does not require agitation before use."


I've used Militec for at least the past 10 years and I've never seen evidence that it has ever corroded, or damaged, anything that I've used it in.

I currently have Militec in the following components of both my vehicles (94 Nissan truck, 05 Mazda3):
1) Manual tranny
2) Power steering
3) Air conditioning
4) Rear differential (Nissan only!)
5) Mixed in with the front wheel bearing grease (Nissan only!)
6) I also add 8 ounces to the crankcases every 30-40K miles

The Militec in my Nissans tranny has been there (along with M1 75W90) for the last 4+ years and it still shifts as good as it did when I bought the truck used 7 years and 70K miles ago.

So far, Militec is the ONLY treatment that I recommend, and I've used just about everything out there at one time or another.

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#298881 - 01/20/06 09:42 PM Re: Militec-1
jonny-b Offline


Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 1073
Loc: Norway
I can also say that after several years of use, I have never experienced any negative with Militec1, and I have also used it in the above mentioned components in both diesel, turbo-diesel and petrol engines(Peugot,Mercedes, Mitsubishi, BMW and Volvo). Also, Militec is cheap, but you have to buy at least one gallon. You can use it for guns also. In fact, Militec1 is probably more known by people who use guns. But, I must say that I have had positive experience with Auto-Rx, solving leaking gaskets. But the only thing, as mentioned before, that have given fuel-reduction, noise-reduction and remarkable increase in horsepower, is the Xado threatment. I also went into their webcite and saw the testing that ADAC(German governments testing)had performed. That one is well documented, with compression testing, dyno-testing and so on. I am sorry I don't have availible/can afford this testing. If I had something to earn on it, I probably would have done it. On this forum I thought people was to share their experiences with different oils/additives and so on, so that people should not waste time and money on snake oils. At least Auto-Rx seems to have been accepted as a good additive, which it is for its purpose.

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#298882 - 02/25/06 04:09 PM Re: Militec-1
Rocco Offline


Registered: 12/15/05
Posts: 8
Loc: Wageningen, The Netherlands
I've requested for the US-Patent number of their Xado Technology. I guess everything we would like to know is in there, or am I mistaken?

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#298883 - 02/25/06 05:29 PM Re: Militec-1
Mamala Bay Offline


Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 2085
Loc: USA
I've ask some folks that had purchase the Xado, those 3 pack $60 kits from Ebay. One had a 97 Ford 150 with 135,000K and at 150,000K he saw no MPG gain or horsepower gain. In fact there was four response and each one came back with no change in engine performance.

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#298884 - 02/26/06 02:08 AM Re: Militec-1
Ken2 Offline


Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 6380
Loc: Washington St.
quote:
I have been using Militec 1 in my Honda for the past 50K miles (since new) and have no issues yet. I just posted a UOA a couple of weeks ago and the results were very good.
But that analysis does not prove that the Militec was worth its cost. You need the same oil and the same aftermarket additive for many thousands of miles and many analyses to determine a trend.

I would not use Militec in an engine. I need solid evidence. I think Militec is good gun oil, but that isn't an engine oil supplement.


Ken

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