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#2956075 - 03/30/13 12:35 AM Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best?
sprintman Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 11006
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
Pablo
Any changes since I ordered that last lot from you?

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#2956216 - 03/30/13 07:48 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: sprintman]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 2975
Loc: Houston, Texas
I looked at the website. Why did they change them? They use to be 98.7% efficient at 15 microns. Now it's 20? [censored]?
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#2956253 - 03/30/13 08:22 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: sprintman]
147_Grain Offline


Registered: 03/11/13
Posts: 1944
Loc: USA
Glad I have a case of the older more efficient filters.

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#2956307 - 03/30/13 09:10 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
Doog Offline


Registered: 10/24/11
Posts: 6144
Loc: North Coast
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I looked at the website. Why did they change them? They use to be 98.7% efficient at 15 microns. Now it's 20? [censored]?


Same as Fram rock catchers....which is why I like Fram...sooner or later every manufacturer starts to copy Fram. LOL
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#2956309 - 03/30/13 09:12 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: sprintman]
joaks Offline


Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 811
Loc: San Diego, CA
Does anyone know why they changed? I hadn't been paying attention.
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#2956313 - 03/30/13 09:15 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: sprintman]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47050
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Same extended drain media. Amsoil has moved away from Wix as an assembly house for certain filters and now uses Champ.

The changes the guys are talking about occurred several years ago when certain Honda/Toyota filters became too restrictive during extended drains. This was beaten to death by the haters here. One guy predicted thousands of dead engines and Amsoil failing and going out of business. Of course, none of these things happened.

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#2956353 - 03/30/13 09:48 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: Doog]
HerrStig Offline


Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 8437
Loc: Boston, MA
Originally Posted By: Doog
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I looked at the website. Why did they change them? They use to be 98.7% efficient at 15 microns. Now it's 20? [censored]?


Same as Fram rock catchers....which is why I like Fram...sooner or later every manufacturer starts to copy Fram. LOL
The Chinese "dollar each" drippy lube specials do anyway.

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#2956616 - 03/30/13 02:07 PM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: HerrStig]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 2975
Loc: Houston, Texas
So are do the filters only filter at 20 microns or 15? Now it says 20 on the website.
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#2956798 - 03/30/13 05:01 PM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: sprintman]
martinq Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 1031
Loc: ON, Canada
The website clearly states "98.7 percent at 20 microns" so I would accept that number. It will also have an efficiency at 15u and 10u but we won't know what those are unless it is published.

This is effectively the same as Frams' Ultra/Synthetic which is 99% at 20u.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/filters-and-by-pass-systems/oil/amsoil-ea-oil-filters/

http://fram.com/products/oil_filters/fram_ultra_oil_filter?select_region=1

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#2956970 - 03/30/13 08:39 PM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: martinq]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 2975
Loc: Houston, Texas
i wonder what they chnged cause i have three amsoil filters that say 98.7% at 15 microns
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#2957232 - 03/31/13 03:15 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 9782
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
i wonder what they chnged cause i have three amsoil filters that say 98.7% at 15 microns

Likely changed once someone else started making them.
I think its a step in the wrong direction not having wix make all their filters. Looks like napa golds for me.
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#2957289 - 03/31/13 06:50 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: Clevy]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47050
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
i wonder what they chnged cause i have three amsoil filters that say 98.7% at 15 microns

Likely changed once someone else started making them.
I think its a step in the wrong direction not having wix make all their filters. Looks like napa golds for me.


The change from Wix had nothing to do with the media. Wix never made all the filters anyway. Napa gold filters are fine, but they don't have the same Donaldson media that the Amsoil filters use.

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#2957556 - 03/31/13 11:01 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: sprintman]
V8man Offline


Registered: 02/11/13
Posts: 206
Loc: Maryland
I have used the Amsoil Synthetic Media Oil Filters and they are a quality product. I know many people who do extended drains and they are happy with these oil filters.

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#2957726 - 03/31/13 02:02 PM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: V8man]
147_Grain Offline


Registered: 03/11/13
Posts: 1944
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: V8man
I have used the Amsoil Synthetic Media Oil Filters and they are a quality product. I know many people who do extended drains and they are happy with these oil filters.


Amen!

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#2965818 - 04/08/13 03:44 AM Re: Pablo, are Amsoil oil filters stillthe best? [Re: Pablo]
fpracha Offline


Registered: 12/07/10
Posts: 534
Loc: MA
Hi Pablo!
Exactly why did the previous Amsoil filters for "certain Honda/Toyota" ... "became too restrictive during extended drains. ..."

At what intervals will these previous Amsoil filters still not become "too restrictive" ?

In closing, even if the Amsoil filter has become too restrictive, will it start releasing "previously trapped dirt etc." into the engine OR will it just affect fuel economy (after the filter has become too restrictive) ?

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