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#2935582 - 03/11/13 05:35 PM Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open]
martinq Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 1041
Loc: ON, Canada

Going through my stash. First up is a perforated filter that I think came off the Subaru way back.

Defense DL3593A

Honeywell
Consumer Products Group
Danbury, CT 06810-5109
Made in USA

Imported by
Honeywell
Stratford, ON, N5A 6V4

http://imgur.com/a/jUl9F










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#2935604 - 03/11/13 05:50 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
salv Offline


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A Fram in any other can is still a Fram. POS. (unless it's an Ultra)
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#2935611 - 03/11/13 05:58 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
nitehawk55 Offline


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Loc: Ontario , Canada
Metal looks very thin .
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#2935638 - 03/11/13 06:24 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
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That's just one sad looking filter.
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#2935649 - 03/11/13 06:31 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
EricF Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
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Loc: SF Bay Area
no joke.. the defense held up better than the OCOD when I used them on neighbor's 95 civic..
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#2935650 - 03/11/13 06:33 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
cp3 Offline


Registered: 07/26/06
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Loc: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Ewwww but always love to see filter pics!

I'm afraid this is what the Canadian Tire Motomasters are. Any idea what the OCI was?
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#2935666 - 03/11/13 06:44 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: nitehawk55]
martinq Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 1041
Loc: ON, Canada
Originally Posted By: nitehawk55
Metal looks very thin .

It's definitely fighting for the thin-is-in award amongst my filters. Has the Denso and Mahle beat by about 30% I'd say.

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#2935672 - 03/11/13 06:46 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: cp3]
martinq Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 1041
Loc: ON, Canada
Originally Posted By: cp3
Any idea what the OCI was?

No I don't and I don't even know where it came from but I have a couple guesses. You can tell but the lack of deposit in the can, and the oil colour, that it wasn't on for very long. I probably yanked it as soon as I saw it.

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#2935673 - 03/11/13 06:47 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
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No particular fan of this type construction but to be fair, wondering if this was a short tripper vehicle, or some reason for excess moisture intrusion?

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#2935730 - 03/11/13 07:39 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
martinq Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 1041
Loc: ON, Canada
Steady daily-drives to work (25-40min trip). No extreme use and there's absolutely NO excuse for the media to perforate.

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#2935813 - 03/11/13 08:59 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
snuffy300 Offline


Registered: 05/05/09
Posts: 14
Loc: Canada
I'm new to filter dissection.

Is this Defense filter missing a spring? (saw it on other brands).

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#2935906 - 03/11/13 10:40 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: snuffy300]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17519
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: snuffy300
I'm new to filter dissection.

Is this Defense filter missing a spring? (saw it on other brands).


It's the silver metal piece with the plastic bypass valve in it.

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#2936876 - 03/12/13 07:24 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
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Loc: The Old North State
I agree the perforations are not acceptable, however the extreme waviness here seems like it could indicate some moisture or coolant intrusion. Even for a Defense filter which the bottom feeder of the Fram fiber end cap line, the waviness looks excessive to me. JMO.

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#2938031 - 03/13/13 09:20 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
cronk Offline


Registered: 01/06/09
Posts: 1279
Loc: Watertown, New York
Where is KEVGUY, don't fear the orange can!
Wonder why people don't care for them!
Cheap pos filters in any color!
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#2939008 - 03/14/13 07:53 PM Re: Defense DL3593A - Media Failure [cut-open] [Re: martinq]
mr_diy Offline


Registered: 07/31/11
Posts: 248
Loc: Michigan
Something extreme destroyed this filter, maybe excess long OCI or moisture. Really is meaningless without the OCI length. I used FRAM in the 80's an 90's at 3-4K OCI's, cut many open, and never had any look distorted. Point is every filter has a wear out time.

I am finding some distortion/waviness that concerns me with P1 PL10241 with 8-9K OCI's. Currently trying a extra long PL20195.


Edited by mr_diy (03/14/13 08:04 PM)
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