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Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! #2893986
02/03/13 02:59 PM
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I still have my Toshiba Laptop that has Office on it, I just hate using it compared to the new Retina MacBook Pro.

I have a lot of school and job work to do and buying Microsoft Office for my Mac seemed to be the only thing left to do after my free trial was up.

NOT TRUE!

PC and Mac users:

Check out OpenOffice.org!

You can download their FREE office suite. It plays well with MS Office and it has almost everything "tool" wise that MS Office has.

I also hear there is a "Libreoffice" program that works great too.

Anyway, I am very pleased with OpenOffice on my Macs.


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2893990
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Use LibreOffice, OpenOffice is dead.

Sun (Oracle) basically took over OpenOffice and decided to change the way the game was played, so all the developers took a fork of the code and kept maintaining it open source, GPL and free as LibreOffice.

Sun of course didn't want to play game and OpenOffice became depreciated and is now not maintained.

Edit: Sorry, they rebranded OpenOffice as "Apache OpenOffice" and started maintaining it for themselves. LibreOffice though is just as powerful, if not moreso, and not controlled corporately.

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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894000
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Whatever version of MS Office I have on my MBP actually seems rather polished compared to the ones I find on most Windows. I hated the one where they took away the menu on the top and put everything into bubbles that made no sense to me.


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894003
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I get MS office for windows or mac through work for like $9.99. I think I can get a copy a year. MS has some kind of agreement that clients that have lots of licenses for lots of workstations get, where the employees can get the softwre for their home machine.

MS implementation of office is fairly bad, at least in excel. Working with big data files with lots of points to plot makes it work really slow.

But it is the standard...

My wife uses OpenOffice on her MBP, and hasnt had any issues. First thing we did was make it save in the real MS formats...

Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894032
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I use open office. It is not as good as Microsoft for power users, but for just ordinary people it is great. Its FREE.


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: JHZR2] #2894040
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I get MS office for windows or mac through work for like $9.99. I think I can get a copy a year. MS has some kind of agreement that clients that have lots of licenses for lots of workstations get, where the employees can get the softwre for their home machine.

+1 - it comes as part of an enterprise select agreement (usually). I just loaded Office 2013 on 2 of my home computers for less than $10. The cloud attached storage is a nice add-on (yes, I know that is has been available separately) and so I have copied of my documents anywhere (plus they are copied out to my Google drive too).

We have nearly 20K machines these days in my company and although I romance the idea of "open" software, MS drives the market, thus it is difficult to topple the giant.


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894065
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Been using OpenOffice for years. Away from the chains of Oracle was the best thing that ever happened to OO. Its deployed at some really large companies and is the vast majority of the non-MS installed base.


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894071
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rg200amp Offline OP
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Im going to download and try LibreOffice too.

It is not a FULL replacement for MS Office. But for the basics and a even a bit more, these free programs are good.


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894114
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Quote:

Don't buy Microsoft Office OS if you do not need it!


At this point every alternative is better. I can get Office for a nominal fee because of where I work, but I never had any reason to....


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894160
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There is another way to do it. If you search for the Microsoft Office codes online you can usually get it for free from some code generator.

Ps. I do not advocate breaking any laws to do this, but I had to do it once on a legally purchased Office when I had to do a complete OS reinstall and they said I already used the code that came with my Office!


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Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894187
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Have the critics of Excel tried working with the same large workbooks in Open/LibreOffice? I have found Open/LibreOffice to be noticeably slower than Excel, to the point that it can become a nuisance if you're not using recent hardware. Like some other people, I still prefer Office 2003 to the later contorted revisions.

I agree that most casual users don't need MS Office, no need to pay that extra $100+. But it's surprising how many people who have worked in an office think they can't do any work on a computer with the real MS Office. Same people send out a native Publisher file to a large group of email recipients and wonder why most of them cannot view that document. They have no idea what the open standard file formats are.

Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894250
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Go one step better and get Linux. My wife had a Pentium IV celeron laptop in 2001 that was too slow right out of the box. We nearly threw it out several times. I found out about Linux Puppy and run the thing off a USB. To put it in perspective, a Pentium IV has about 10% of the switches of an i5 to begin with, and this is a Celeron. It has 'Abiword' which is an excellent lightweight word processor. You are limited in your fonts but how many do you need? The hardware is at the ragged edge of handling a Youtube video. The box gets hot! But its still a very useful machine. Definitely try it before your throw out that four year old laptop.

Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2894837
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Granted, the last time I used OpenOffice was a few years ago, but it didn't have near the polish or features that Microsoft Office has. I use Excel a lot, and the OOo version of Excel just didn't cut it. I have Office for Mac 2011 and there appears to be nearly 100% reciprocity (or whatever the term is) between the PC and Mac version now.

Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: RiceCake] #2894862
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actually open office is not dead, version 4 is on its way:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/

It is an excellent product, particularly for the price which is free

Re: Don't buy Microsoft Office if you do not need it! [Re: rg200amp] #2895253
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I use Libre Office once in a while, but it is not perfect and I found myself going back to MS Office 2007 once in a while.

A lot of the document with graphics doesn't look the same between them. If I only use Libre Office I run the risk of a well formatted presentation turning weird when I work on it in MS Office (or vice versa).

This is especially true if you have lots of table and graphs in your document.


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