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Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA #2794978
11/06/12 07:42 PM
11/06/12 07:42 PM
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Missouri
ArtDart Offline OP
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Missouri
Many thanks to Blackstone Labs for running this VOA at no charge.

Aluminum / 0
Chromium / 0
Iron / 0
Copper / 0
Lead / 0
Tin / 0
Molybdenum / 1891
Nickel / 0
Manganese / 0
Silver / 0
Titanium / 0
Potassium / 0
Boron / 134
Silicon / 17
Sodium / 70
Calcium / 3183
Magnesium / 10
Phosphorus / 3472
Zinc / 9
Barium / 0

SUS Viscosity @ 210F / 47.9
cSt Viscosity @ 100C / 6.64
Flashpoint in F / 430
Fuel% / -
Antifreeze% / -
Water% / 0.0
Insolubles% / TR
TBN / 3.7


Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: ArtDart] #2794999
11/06/12 07:56 PM
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I wonder if that is Trinuclear moly?


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: spasm3] #2795010
11/06/12 08:08 PM
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NY
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Originally Posted By: spasm3
I wonder if that is Trinuclear moly?


I can tell you it is not MoS2.


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: ArtDart] #2795011
11/06/12 08:09 PM
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Upstate NY
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I still believe if you want your oil to lubricate better, buy better oil rather than go for an additive. Its a [censored] shoot, it could help or it could counteract the additive package already in the oil.


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: ArtDart] #2795022
11/06/12 08:24 PM
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MN
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That is nice. Thank you for posting as well as Blackstone performing it!!


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: ArtDart] #2795026
11/06/12 08:30 PM
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Saskatoon canada
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Wow. Where do we find that stuff in Canada?


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: Clevy] #2795044
11/06/12 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
Wow. Where do we find that stuff in Canada?


I'm not from Canada but I bought mine from Amazon dot com. Not sure if that helps you or not.


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: ArtDart] #2795046
11/06/12 08:59 PM
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southeast US
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I don't know what to think. They advertise it a magic ester product while its really loaded with a bunch of AP, AW and friction modifiers.

And it's not ester in the first place according to my oilyser measurements.

I bought it to quiet down cold engine noise in one of my cars (they advertise that property heavily) and the net result was more noise.

Totally false advertizing in my book.

Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: friendly_jacek] #2795064
11/06/12 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
I don't know what to think. They advertise it a magic ester product while its really loaded with a bunch of AP, AW and friction modifiers.

And it's not ester in the first place according to my oilyser measurements.

I bought it to quiet down cold engine noise in one of my cars (they advertise that property heavily) and the net result was more noise.

Totally false advertizing in my book.



What was it according to your "oilyser" measurements. How can you prove it is not an ester? If you can you might have a good lawsuit on your hands. Just curious.


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: chubbs1] #2795157
11/06/12 11:16 PM
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I went back to my notes and I my recollection was wrong. Lebegard Biotech actually did test out of scale for dielectric constant, consistent with ester. It was the G-oil that didn't. I confused those 2.

I'm still disappointed about the noise on cold engine. But, I guess it's mechanical and it's not fair to blame Lubegard on it.

Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: friendly_jacek] #2795164
11/06/12 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
I went back to my notes and I my recollection was wrong. Lebegard Biotech actually did test out of scale for dielectric constant, consistent with ester. It was the G-oil that didn't. I confused those 2.


Thanks for clearing that up, the oil additive haters would have had a field day. lol


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: ArtDart] #2795198
11/07/12 01:12 AM
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Hudson, NH
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Can somebody describe what we are looking at? Lubegard products are regarded highly, is this a legit product?


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Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: demarpaint] #2795233
11/07/12 04:11 AM
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MA
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I wonder if that is Trinuclear moly?


I can tell you it is not MoS2.
What indicates this?

Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: friendly_jacek] #2795236
11/07/12 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
And it's not ester in the first place according to my oilyser measurements.

I bought it to quiet down cold engine noise in one of my cars (they advertise that property heavily) and the net result was more noise.
May be the noise is related to injectors... What car & which engine oil grade were you using ?

Re: Lubegard Bio/Tech Engine Oil Protectant - VOA [Re: ArtDart] #2795240
11/07/12 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Can somebody describe what we are looking at? Lubegard products are regarded highly, is this a legit product?


http://lubegard.com/C-180/LUBEGARD+BIO-TECH+Engine+Oil+Protectant

Have an oil sample report with this product coming. Stay tuned! laugh

Looks great!

Nice boost to phosphorus, calcium, moly, and TBN as a result.

Boron in that amount is pretty much negligible once added to 4 quarts of oil, etc. As are any numbers lower. Such as sodium. Enough to spike a typical UOA by what...5-10 ppm, if that?

This will boost moly at least 150, calcium and phosphorous another 300 in most typical UOA we see.


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