Recent Topics
O'Reilly High Mileage ATF
by logcar
17 minutes 51 seconds ago
Is this steelie wheel repairable? Pics
by shadow7
Today at 04:25 PM
Accord drain and refill question
by aquariuscsm
Today at 03:57 PM
Trying to diagnose a front-end clunk
by mrgrim
Today at 03:44 PM
Sad but funny. I really feel for the guy.
by BMWTurboDzl
Today at 03:37 PM
UOA of Mobil 1 EP from '05 V8 4Runner.
by JDMHero47
Today at 03:32 PM
How to copy video files from sd card to ipad?
by Quattro Pete
Today at 03:29 PM
Why DIrect Injection is really bad!
by JDMHero47
Today at 03:26 PM
MicroGard MGL51394 @ 6980 miles
by MrQuackers
Today at 03:26 PM
What vehicles will an XG8A fit?
by tc1446
Today at 02:44 PM
2017 BMW x3 loaner experience
by L_Sludger
Today at 02:24 PM
Fix for tail pipe cancer?
by Oro_O
Today at 02:19 PM
Energy Efficiency Report from my Utility ... :-)
by LoneRanger
Today at 01:50 PM
Preloading suspension before torquing - a dilemma
by Klutch9
Today at 01:33 PM
Acdelco air filter made in China?
by njohnson
Today at 12:37 PM
Mercon ULV - anyone know anything?
by jaj
Today at 11:29 AM
2012 Race Red Ford F150 FX4
by Coprolite
Today at 11:29 AM
Brakes & Rotors Recommendations. Durable.
by dave munson
Today at 11:24 AM
Castrol Edge question
by 60ampfuse
Today at 11:16 AM
Tundra 5.7 Cam Chain Tensioner
by JXW
Today at 10:45 AM
Newest Members
Italia64, donjuers, AikiBrewer, jgb3, SpaceTitan
61951 Registered Users
Who's Online
76 registered (2015_PSD, ABCarr, 2002 Maxima SE, 03s, 55Test, 1345, 5 invisible), 2334 Guests and 29 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
61951 Members
66 Forums
266983 Topics
4415506 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#2792548 - 11/04/12 07:50 AM Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid
exman123 Offline


Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 35
Loc: NC
Gang,

I have a 2005 Lexus GX 470 with. 4.7L V8 80k miles. I took it to a Lexus dealer to have the transmission flushed just a preventative measures. No problems with the tranny at all.
The dealer put in Type 4 fluid. When I got home..120 miles away. I noticed the mistake. I called the dealership and they said it needed WS fluid as I knew and told me to bring it back..UGH...Another 120 miles to the dealer.
I put 240 miles on the tranny with the wrong fluid. Did this damage my tranny?
Is Type 4 and WS compatible? They did another flush and put in WS fluid. The tranny seems to shift just fine.

Just wondering the long term affects of driving 240 miles on Type 4 fluid.

Thanks!
_________________________
2005 Lexus GX 470
2014 Toyota Sienna XLE

Top
#2792572 - 11/04/12 08:17 AM Re: Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid [Re: exman123]
hypervish Offline


Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 1673
Loc: new jersey
The GX470 has a very stout transmission, I think it will be just fine. Although I'd be tempted to get one more flush just to be on the safe side. And, I assume by flush you mean fluid exchange, correct?
_________________________
2000 Lexus RX300 AWD 234k miles
QS Ultimate Durability 5W-30
Tranny - Castrol Transmax IMV / T-IV
Transfer Case and Rear LSD - Royal Purple 75w-90

Top
#2792574 - 11/04/12 08:19 AM Re: Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid [Re: exman123]
simple_gifts Offline


Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 11440
Loc: Middlesex County CT
OT:That dealer is clearly not worth the 120 mile drive.

Why does the customer have to specify the correct fluid?
_________________________
2004 Prius; 77K Magnatec 10w-30
2003 Echo > 4.1x10^5 miles; 5w-50
2006 B2300;117K;ALM


Was driving an ox cart; Now on the USS Enterprise

Top
#2792588 - 11/04/12 08:32 AM Re: Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid [Re: exman123]
JC1 Offline


Registered: 11/29/08
Posts: 2232
Loc: Oshawa, Ontario Canada
Originally Posted By: exman123
Gang,

I have a 2005 Lexus GX 470 with. 4.7L V8 80k miles. I took it to a Lexus dealer to have the transmission flushed just a preventative measures. No problems with the tranny at all.
The dealer put in Type 4 fluid. When I got home..120 miles away. I noticed the mistake. I called the dealership and they said it needed WS fluid as I knew and told me to bring it back..UGH...Another 120 miles to the dealer.
I put 240 miles on the tranny with the wrong fluid. Did this damage my tranny?
Is Type 4 and WS compatible? They did another flush and put in WS fluid. The tranny seems to shift just fine.

Just wondering the long term affects of driving 240 miles on Type 4 fluid.

Thanks!


You should be ok. Next time do it yourself. Then you can save yourself a 240 mile drive.

Regards, JC
_________________________
2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 PPPP/Wix Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Mobil 1/Napa Gold Filter

Top
#2792784 - 11/04/12 01:39 PM Re: Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid [Re: JC1]
exman123 Offline


Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 35
Loc: NC
Thanks all. Are these 2 fluids not compatible? If not what may happen if the full fluid exchange didn't get 100% of he T4 out of the tranny?
_________________________
2005 Lexus GX 470
2014 Toyota Sienna XLE

Top
#2792888 - 11/04/12 03:35 PM Re: Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid [Re: exman123]
bmwtechguy Offline


Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 2571
Loc: South Carolina
It is doubtful any damage was done at all. The WS is most likely a higher quality fluid, because it probably has more synthetic base oil and longer lasting friction modifiers in the newer spec fluid. It starts out at a lower-viscosity than the T-IV does most likely. I am of the opinion that it did not do anything except give your transmission a really good 240 mile flush so that you now have 100% new fluid in there. Transmission fluids are really not THAT different. If you did not encounter any shifting problems or errors/codes, then things are just fine.

Top
#2792917 - 11/04/12 04:01 PM Re: Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid [Re: exman123]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 18046
Loc: Iowegia - USA
Quote:
Are these 2 fluids not compatible?


The T-IV is a 7.5 cSt viscosity fluid while the WS is a fuel conserving 6.0 cSt fluid similar to DexronVI. The WS has better cold temp operation, better oxidation resistance, and better friction modifier retention.

I doubt you'll have any damage and as someone else stated, you got a good tranny flush and maybe the dealer will be more careful.

Does the receipt show WS on the ticket and did you see them put in the WS?
_________________________
When people tell me, "You're gonna regret that in the morning," I sleep past noon 'cause I'm a problem solver. smile

Top
#2793058 - 11/04/12 06:32 PM Re: Toyota WS vs. Toyota Type 4 fluid [Re: MolaKule]
exman123 Offline


Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 35
Loc: NC
Thanks All!!

The ticket states they used Type IV fluid the first time around. That is when I freaked out and I knew it took WS.

On the second time around, I insisted I watch them do the complete flush and I watched them pour in 12 qts of Toyota WS into the flush machine. I am taking it to a different Lexus dealer tomm AM to verify the fluid is full. They did not do the computerized testing to be sure it was full..overfull..undefilled..I am a savy consumer and watch the TSB's. Lexus advised they would pay for this testing.
_________________________
2005 Lexus GX 470
2014 Toyota Sienna XLE

Top