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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2786653
10/28/12 06:09 PM
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I've got 5 bottles of this in my basement. When I emailed the company about using it in a shared sump bike they said not to. I've used it in my mustang and truck with no noticeable running differences or fuel economy increases.
They told me it's sone kind of polymer blend that coats metal creating a super slick surface. Mos2 works better and costs less. At least the mos2 showed a fuel economy increase.
I never did a uoa so I cannot comment on wear rates. It is very thick in the bottle


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: Clevy] #2786662
10/28/12 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
I've got 5 bottles of this in my basement. When I emailed the company about using it in a shared sump bike they said not to. I've used it in my mustang and truck with no noticeable running differences or fuel economy increases.
They told me it's sone kind of polymer blend that coats metal creating a super slick surface. Mos2 works better and costs less. At least the mos2 showed a fuel economy increase.
I never did a uoa so I cannot comment on wear rates. It is very thick in the bottle



How much hyper lube did you put in the engine and how much MOS2 did you use?


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: Clevy] #2786686
10/28/12 06:34 PM
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What brand of Mos2 did you use Lubro Moly ?, I tried it (Lubro Moly ) and I didn't notice any differences to be fair I didn't leave it in that long. Also how much did you use ?

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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2786688
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I tried the hyper lube when I first bought my mustang so around 4 years ago. I didn't discover mos2 until about 2 years ago.
So it was about 2 years apart in treating the mustang.
I used a full bottle of the hyper-lube,and a full can of mos2.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: Clevy] #2786690
10/28/12 06:39 PM
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Do you ever to UOA are your wear number lower

Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2786761
10/28/12 08:04 PM
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Quote:
Hi I just read that Hy-per Lube was started by Howard Hilton in the 1950's and there is a Howard Hilton that is President on Internation Lubricatants Inc ( Lubegard ) It could be there is no relation today but it interesting...



Where did you read that?

Frank Erickson is the founder and CEO of ILI.

What IS interesting is that both companies are headquarted in Seattle.

However, Seattle has been know to be the home of many entrepeneurs.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: MolaKule] #2786775
10/28/12 08:23 PM
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http://www.hyperlube.com/About-Us-c2.html Harold Hilton Started Hy-per Lube and this link http://www.manta.com/g/mmdsnnl/harold-hilton shows Harold Hilton as International Lubricants Inc. President not sure how current that is or if its the same person.

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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2786792
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No. I never got any uoa done. It was before I even knew they existed,before I knew of this site.
Maybe next year,since I still have some however my mustangs new engine will not be much of a test mule considering as soon as I fire the engine I'm going to use cera-tec,then on the next oil change a bottle of mos2,then half a can of mos2 until the next cera-tec treatment is due.
Going to do the same in the Harley,maybe I can use my winter truck as a test mule however it only gets used when the snow flies. And I've already used mos2 in it,with a fuel economy increase.
Now that I've found mos2 I don't know that I need to use anything else. Mos2 is also cheaper per treatment than the hyper lube.
If someone wants to do a run of this stuff in their vehicle as a test subject I'll mail them a bottle,if they will post their personal results as in a before and after type deal.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: Clevy] #2786800
10/28/12 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
No. I never got any uoa done. It was before I even knew they existed,before I knew of this site.
Maybe next year,since I still have some however my mustangs new engine will not be much of a test mule considering as soon as I fire the engine I'm going to use cera-tec,then on the next oil change a bottle of mos2,then half a can of mos2 until the next cera-tec treatment is due.
Going to do the same in the Harley,maybe I can use my winter truck as a test mule however it only gets used when the snow flies. And I've already used mos2 in it,with a fuel economy increase.
Now that I've found mos2 I don't know that I need to use anything else. Mos2 is also cheaper per treatment than the hyper lube.
If someone wants to do a run of this stuff in their vehicle as a test subject I'll mail them a bottle,if they will post their personal results as in a before and after type deal.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2786810
10/28/12 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: DanMiller
What brand of Mos2 did you use Lubro Moly ?, I tried it (Lubro Moly ) and I didn't notice any differences to be fair I didn't leave it in that long. Also how much did you use ?

I used the liqui-moly brand. You have to leave it in for the whole interval. It takes time to plate the metal surfaces and needs heat and pressure to work.
In my experience with mos2 fuel economy was unaffected until the 3rd tank of fuel. I keep track of mileage of every tank of fuel in all of my vehicles. My mustang and truck both saw a mileage increase of 1km per liter of fuel averaged over the entire tank.
I've got multiple iPhone apps to calculate mileage. I always calculate it on fuel put in against kms driven.
While driving to BC I got 650kms from a single tank of fuel all highway in the truck. Average was always 450 with mixed city/highway.
It is noticeable when I don't use the mos2. If I use it,then run out the interval,then new oil with no mos2 fuel mileage gradually declines back to 450 a tank by the end of the untreated oils change interval. It works well enough that everytime I see it I buy it because it's very hard to find.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: Clevy] #2786822
10/28/12 09:14 PM
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I found it (Lubro Moly) in Winnipeg in my local NAPA , I had to ask for it as they keep in in the back and not out on display. I think it was around $8 for 10oz (300 ML ) . I have read that some people only use around 2 OZs ( 60 ML ) per oil change.

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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2786903
10/28/12 11:15 PM
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I found an interesting link that describes Polymer esters ( hy-per lube Zinc Replacement )

Click on the link then click on the Chapter 5 in the table of contents

http://books.google.ca/books?id=g3v3MXzJ...p;q&f=false




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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2788371
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That link didn't work for me.

I looked at some HyperLube at our local O'Reilly's yesterday and it appears to be about a 35 cSt oil.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: MolaKule] #2788426
10/30/12 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
That link didn't work for me.

I looked at some HyperLube at our local O'Reilly's yesterday and it appears to be about a 35 cSt oil.



At the top of the page, next to the word GOOGLE, it will say "what is polymer Ester Oil." Click on the blue box with the magnifying glass icon. The google search page will come up, and the first thing listed is a purple book. Click on that and it will bring up the right page. The Polymer Ester is under section 5.3.3. You may need to scroll up the page a little.







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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: MolaKule] #2788440
10/30/12 07:11 PM
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http://books.google.ca/books?id=g3v3MXzJEZsC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

Hopefully this link is Better.

What is 35 cST in layman words 50 Weight ?

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