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#2727186 - 08/27/12 10:33 PM 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M
irontom Offline


Registered: 08/26/12
Posts: 4
Loc: ca
Code:
LAB NUMBER: F14287 UNIT ID: 03 VIBE

OIL REPORT DATE: 8/7/2012 CLIENT ID: 

REPORT 

Toyota 1.8L 4-cyl (1ZZ-FE)MAKE/MODEL: OIL TYPE & GRADE: Mobil 1 10W/30 
Gasoline (Unleaded)FUEL TYPE: OIL USE INTERVAL: 27,920 Miles 
ADDITIONAL INFO: 
 

COMMENTS TOM: The only thing highlighted last time was
aluminum, and that dropped back a tick this time around,
leaving your Vibe with a clean report. Iron and silicon are 
still above average for this type of engine, but silicon has 
been reading at this level for quite a while now, so it's not 
a problem, and the excess iron is due to the long oil run. 
Universal averages show 8 ppm iron is normal after ~5,600 
miles of oil use, but you ran nearly five times as long on the 
oil, so three times the iron isn't bad! The TBN was down to 
0.8, so we wouldn't run longer for now, but this is a nice 
report! 

ELEMENTS 
IN 
PARTS 
PER 
MILLION 
MI/HR on Oil 27,920 29,895 8,407 11,778 9,948 7,849 UNIVERSAL AVERAGES

MI/HR on Unit 201,249 UNIT / 173,329 128,943 76,628 64,850 54,902 
Sample Date 07/24/12 AVERAGES LOCATION 08/22/11 01/13/10 09/07/07 02/02/07 04/17/06 
Make Up Oil Added 1.5 qts 4 qts 0.5 qts 0 qts 0 qts 0 qts 
ALUMINUM 5 4 6 4 4 2 2 3
CHROMIUM 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
IRON 24 16 21 16 16 14 7 8
COPPER 1 1 1 1 2 1 0 2
LEAD 1 1 1 1 3 2 0 1
TIN 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
MOLYBDENUM 75 89 113 99 89 81 74 77
NICKEL 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
MANGANESE 1 2 2 2 3 2 0 1
SILVER 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TITANIUM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
POTASSIUM 5 3 3 4 3 1 2 1
BORON 39 49 59 46 40 40 68 40
SILICON 23 19 22 21 21 16 12 14
SODIUM 6 86 17 8 6 6 39
CALCIUM 1340 2336 2506 2625 2837 2317 2388 2195
MAGNESIUM 875 209 182 69 59 48 18 113
PHOSPHORUS 748 695 761 699 669 659 636 713
ZINC 997 881 1001 883 866 784 754 840
BARIUM 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0

Values 
Should Be* 


PROPERTIES 
SUS Viscosity @ 210░F 64.3 58-68 67.3 61.8 57.9 57.7 59.2 
cSt Viscosity @ 100░C 11.41 9.7-12.7 12.23 10.73 9.63 9.55 9.98 
Flashpoint in ░F 375 >365 405 370 375 385 395 
Fuel % <0.5 <2.0 <0.5 <0.5 <0.5 <0.5 <0.5 
Antifreeze % 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 
Water % 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 
Insolubles % 0.3 <0.6 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.4 0.2 
TBN 0.8 >1.0 2.2 2.0 4.1 1.8 2.9 
TAN 
ISO Code 

* THIS COLUMN APPLIES ONLY TO THE CURRENT SAMPLE 
416 E. PETTIT AVE. FORT WAYNE, IN 46806 (260) 744-2380 www.blackstone-labs.com 

ęCOPYRIGHT BLACKSTONE LABORATORIES 2012 LIABILITY LIMITED TO COST OF ANALYSIS 




This has been run at 15,000 miles OCI until the last 2 which where 27,920 and 29,895. Always using Toyota Oil Filter Part # 90915 yzzF1 which is larger then stock.

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#2727217 - 08/27/12 11:50 PM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2222
Loc: Oswego, IL
Did I read this correctly? You're doing almost 30K OCI? shocked2
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#2727278 - 08/28/12 05:44 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
Falken Offline


Registered: 07/30/12
Posts: 2630
Loc: Montreal, QC, Canada
Wow, I don't see a point in running oil this long, but it is nice and informative for the rest of us.

This is probably the longest oil run I have ever seen on BITOG.

And, it is a good report at that. I am surprised that you still have any TBN left after 30,000 KM!!
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#2727299 - 08/28/12 06:23 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
Falken Offline


Registered: 07/30/12
Posts: 2630
Loc: Montreal, QC, Canada
Oops, meant to say 30,000 Miles, not KM.

I'm blown away. Is this the SN version?

I may start using Mobil 1...
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#2727309 - 08/28/12 06:50 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
Thax Offline


Registered: 11/07/10
Posts: 718
Loc: VA
I sure as [censored] wouldnt run a oci like this nor do I recommend it , but it is working for ya. Impressive , cant deny XOM makes a quality lube.
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#2727310 - 08/28/12 06:51 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 5883
Loc: Hudson, NH
Would reconsider using a end-capless Toyota OEM standard interval filter. A synthetic extended interval filter may be a better fit for your OCI.
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#2727335 - 08/28/12 07:42 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30256
Loc: NJ
Kind of proves what XOM has said all along in that the Tbn will hang on for quite some time. This is the SN stuff too.

They test all Mobil 1 grades out to 25,000 miles.

Notice how oxidation resitant M1 is. You can see from this report that it's still a 30 grade, but slowly creeping up.
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#2727343 - 08/28/12 07:54 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: buster]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 5883
Loc: Hudson, NH
Buster,
When you say creeping up do you mean thickening?
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#2727346 - 08/28/12 07:58 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30256
Loc: NJ
Yeah if I'm reading it correctly the viscosity is 11.4, which is still a solid 30 grade. It stade in grade.
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#2727361 - 08/28/12 08:11 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: Thax]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30256
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Thax
I sure as [censored] wouldnt run a oci like this nor do I recommend it , but it is working for ya. Impressive , cant deny XOM makes a quality lube.


+1

I would never suggest going this far either. 15k is a lot, 30k is really pushing it LOL. Held up well though in this application.

No bypass filter either.
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#2727548 - 08/28/12 11:10 AM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4364
Loc: Texas
Good report relative to the miles. How many months was the oil in use. What type of driving highway/city mix?

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#2727606 - 08/28/12 12:05 PM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2222
Loc: Oswego, IL
I'm interested to know what kind of driving this engine saw during this run.
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#2727773 - 08/28/12 02:03 PM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
irontom Offline


Registered: 08/26/12
Posts: 4
Loc: ca
This is mostly highway driving. 15 mile trip mornings, and after noon daily. With 5 or 6 trips 50 to 80 mile plus return every week, Occasional short shopping trips also.

Had always run 15,000 Then the wife took over driving this car and ignored the stickers. Drats! I plan on going 20,000 now.

Oil was in use for about 10 months I also used the wrong info this is 5W/30 not sure tat matters. maybe moderator could fix the subject line?

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#2727796 - 08/28/12 02:27 PM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30256
Loc: NJ
These are great results. One of the more impressive long drain UOA's I've seen.

Stick with it and use the Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 oil.
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#2727816 - 08/28/12 02:50 PM Re: 2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M [Re: irontom]
cutter Offline


Registered: 02/06/12
Posts: 845
Loc: Philadelphia, PA
Very nice 1zz. A million mile engine after the oil-burning revision.

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