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#2708176 - 08/07/12 09:56 PM Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions
NJC Offline


Registered: 04/28/05
Posts: 3004
Loc: Vancouver BC
I need to replace the lower control arm driver side on my 2004 Sienna. With 164k km's on odometer, it seems worthwhile to buy the integrated control arm/ball joint assy. Rockauto has these 2:

MEVOTECH MS86170 @ $102

or

RAYBESTOS Part # 5071853 @ $116.

Any opinions? The Mevotech is listed as a popular seller. shrug

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#2708187 - 08/07/12 10:03 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 18909
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Raybestos pro are spicer and good quality. Mevotech is cheap Chinese junk.
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#2708191 - 08/07/12 10:06 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
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Loc: Upstate NY
The ball joint is $30 and you can get an AC/Delco. All AC/Delco sells is the ball joint, that says to me a lot of people are only replacing the ball joint.
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#2708205 - 08/07/12 10:19 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
NJC Offline


Registered: 04/28/05
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The rear control arm bushing is defininitely hosed .. as I could hear a clunk when going over speed bumps and turning to the right. It flexed quite a bit when pryed with crowbar .. but the ball joint was still rock solid.

Dorman 521813 is also an option @ $91 (sans ball joint).

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#2708352 - 08/08/12 05:37 AM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
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Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
More Chinese junk. Really the only decent part on that page is the Raybestos Pro.

i had a bad experience with Mevotech a few years ago and posted about it here.
The car was so far out of alignment it was scuffing the right front tire and could not be adjusted out.

The hunk of junk was twisted. I replaced both with Moog which were still good at that time and the alignment was spot on.
Over the past couple of years Moog parts have been in decline, i have had issues with them then you don't expect from quality parts.
Raybestos pro is the same quality as Moog once were (they are both owned by the same company now).
Their service grade is also cheap Chinese rubbish.
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#2708589 - 08/08/12 10:37 AM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
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Registered: 05/18/12
Posts: 4372
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
I would also avoid the Dorman replacement.

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#2708595 - 08/08/12 10:42 AM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
Kruse Offline


Registered: 10/05/05
Posts: 4298
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: NJC


Dorman 521813 is also an option @ $91 (sans ball joint).


If it's got the Dorman name on it, chances are it's from Taiwan or China, in this case most likely China.

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#2708653 - 08/08/12 11:29 AM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
NJC Offline


Registered: 04/28/05
Posts: 3004
Loc: Vancouver BC
Guys - thanks very much. This is exactly the helpful info I was looking for. I'll go with the Raybestos part ... to bad Rockauto is not carrying a wider selection of good quality vendors. Maybe it's just this part? Otherwise they are a great supplier.

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#2708700 - 08/08/12 12:07 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
It is a good call to get both sides done, and get complete units.
Just pop them in.
A bit more $, but normally worth it, esp for a civilian.

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#2708985 - 08/08/12 04:55 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
stephen9666 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 3431
Loc: USA
To the OP - Did you check Amazon? They're frequently cheaper than Rock Auto after considering shipping.

Also, you may want to consider just replacing the bushing. I replaced the bushings in the lower control arms on my girlfriend's Beetle. I used the ball joint press they rent at Advance Auto.

It's a very similar design to your control arm, with the large hockey-puck style bushing at one end.

EDIT - In this case Amazon appears to only carry the Dorman part, so scratch that.

You may also want to check Advance with discount codes.


Edited by stephen9666 (08/08/12 05:08 PM)

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#2709062 - 08/08/12 06:16 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
stephen9666 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 3431
Loc: USA
EDIT - I just noticed you wanted control arms with the ball joints already installed.


I did a little more poking around and found another option.

Amazon's catalog is somewhat ghetto. Sometimes you have to find part numbers on the manufacturers site and then search for the part number on Amazon.

I looked at Beck Arnley and they do offer control arms. These are without the ball joint and Amazon has them for $73 each shipped.
http://www.beckcatalog.com/#

I have limited experience with BA, but they seem pretty well regarded here on BITOG and other places. Many people report that the parts are often OEM supplied.

Here are the part numbers:
101-7011
101-7012





Edited by stephen9666 (08/08/12 06:25 PM)

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#2709349 - 08/09/12 12:40 AM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: stephen9666]
NJC Offline


Registered: 04/28/05
Posts: 3004
Loc: Vancouver BC
Thanks Stephen - I am actually in the process of placing an Amazon order so the info is timely. But never knowing where the parts are MFG (or of the quality of the MFG in that country) is problematic ... Beck Arnley is a good name but I have zero history with their suspension parts. And Google doesn't provide much help.

I might end up going with the Raybestos Pro line just to be sure I don't have to do this in 5yrs time.

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#2710194 - 08/09/12 08:49 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: NJC]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8598
Loc: Florida
Beck Arnley is usually the OEM part with their name written on it. I recommend it if the OEM part was good.

Did your OEM control arm serve you well?
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#2710315 - 08/10/12 01:07 AM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: artificialist]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 19810
Loc: CA
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Beck Arnley is usually the OEM part with their name written on it. I recommend it if the OEM part was good.

Did your OEM control arm serve you well?

Beck Arnley is supposed to be OE-source, but the last clutch master cyl and slave cyl I received from them was packaged in the Beck/Arnley box with only a "made in Taiwan" labeling; there was no mention of any OEM name on there.

I know their 089 series brake pads are supposed to be OEM, but I am not 100% sure that all of the stuff is always OEM.
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#2710695 - 08/10/12 12:10 PM Re: Replacing lower control arm Sienna - MFG opinions [Re: artificialist]
NJC Offline


Registered: 04/28/05
Posts: 3004
Loc: Vancouver BC
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Beck Arnley is usually the OEM part with their name written on it. I recommend it if the OEM part was good.

Did your OEM control arm serve you well?

The van was in service from 04/03, so it's the original bushing @ 9yrs and 165k km's. That's a reasonable service, but I would expect better life.

But it's probably more a function of poor design. Why Toyota would engineer a bushing that is subject to so much lateral tension is odd? I think the design on my Volvo (for instance) is much better: standard lower control arm with a radius rod into a bushing that is compressed axially, instead of the Sienna radial tension.

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