Hello, My 2007 GM product requires "super DOT 4 brake fluid" for the clutch fluid reservoir. What is the difference between Super Dot 4 and DOT 4 brake fluid? Is there any reason I can't just use DOT 4 in the clutch fluid reservoir? There seems to be a big difference in price and availability is the reason I ask.
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Originally Posted By: Hirev
Hello, My 2007 GM product requires "super DOT 4 brake fluid" for the clutch fluid reservoir. What is the difference between Super Dot 4 and DOT 4 brake fluid? Is there any reason I can't just use DOT 4 in the clutch fluid reservoir? There seems to be a big difference in price and availability is the reason I ask.
GM is quoting their DOT4 product, which they call "Super"
There is no non-super GM DOT 4 fluid, AFIAK
the next one down is DOT 3
Hello, My 2007 GM product requires "super DOT 4 brake fluid" for the clutch fluid reservoir. What is the difference between Super Dot 4 and DOT 4 brake fluid? Is there any reason I can't just use DOT 4 in the clutch fluid reservoir? There seems to be a big difference in price and availability is the reason I ask.
GM is quoting their DOT4 product, which they call "Super"
There is no non-super GM DOT 4 fluid, AFIAK
the next one down is DOT 3
How hot can a clutch slave cylinder get? Hot day, stop & go traffic...?
There are European makers of DOT4+ brake fluid. ATE, Brembo, Motul, maybe others. Volvo's factory spec for brake fluid in their fwd cars is a DOT4+ fluid, and the Volvo labeled fluid is 4+.
There are European makers of DOT4+ brake fluid. ATE, Brembo, Motul, maybe others. Volvo's factory spec for brake fluid in their fwd cars is a DOT4+ fluid, and the Volvo labeled fluid is 4+.
Originally Posted By: AVB
With out knowing the application I wasn't sure why it would call for Super DOT4, but if it is a Vette or something that might be taken to the track I can understand.
I agree for street driving DOT3 should be ok.
Yes it is for a Vette. Not a track car, just a daily driver.
With out knowing the application I wasn't sure why it would call for Super DOT4, but if it is a Vette or something that might be taken to the track I can understand.
I agree for street driving DOT3 should be ok.
Yes it is for a Vette. Not a track car, just a daily driver.
Some Carquest stores specialize in European fluids, and have DOT4+ because it is required by many European cars.
European cars, these days, with ESP, require a low-viscosity DOT 4 fluid.
The "Super" or PLus... I think it's more marketing.
The ATE DOT4 fluid, is called "Type 200", which has a higher boiling point (both wet & dry) than Pentosin "Super DOT-4"
The "Super" or PLus... I think it's more marketing.
The ATE DOT4 fluid, is called "Type 200", which has a higher boiling point (both wet & dry) than Pentosin "Super DOT-4"
Thanks for the replies. Apparently Ford is also selling a Super Dot 4 brake fluid. I found this that list the specifications and manufacture of it for Ford. Looks like the minimum boiling points have been raised on Super DOT 4 compared to Dot 4. It states 260C/500F dry and 180C/356F wet.
Here is the Ford Bulletin on it. LINK
Here is the Ford Bulletin on it. LINK
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
European cars, these days, with ESP, require a low-viscosity DOT 4 fluid.
The "Super" or PLus... I think it's more marketing.
The ATE DOT4 fluid, is called "Type 200", which has a higher boiling point (both wet & dry) than Pentosin "Super DOT-4"
Perhaps GM needs to develop a super-duper DOT4. I agree, how hot can a clutch fluid get that it requires this?
European cars, these days, with ESP, require a low-viscosity DOT 4 fluid.
The "Super" or PLus... I think it's more marketing.
The ATE DOT4 fluid, is called "Type 200", which has a higher boiling point (both wet & dry) than Pentosin "Super DOT-4"
Perhaps GM needs to develop a super-duper DOT4. I agree, how hot can a clutch fluid get that it requires this?
Originally Posted By: jtfmdyk
I agree, how hot can a clutch fluid get that it requires this?
In an open-tracked, or hard launched drag race car, MUCH hotter than you think (and they NEED high-temp fluids, changed OFTEN).
For a mildly driven street car, not so much.
I agree, how hot can a clutch fluid get that it requires this?
In an open-tracked, or hard launched drag race car, MUCH hotter than you think (and they NEED high-temp fluids, changed OFTEN).
For a mildly driven street car, not so much.
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