Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted By: FastGame
Originally Posted By: MrRPM
TBN is pretty low too....
I really am kind of dissapointed, If anyone from SOPUS is reading this and sees that blackstones results are off then they need to provide a correct VOA. Otherwise I don't see this oil then anything more then marketing hype.
I agree, looks like Quaker State DEFY is an average (at best) SM oil.
Blackstone VOA numbers are complete garbage (as usual). You have to be moronic to condemn this oil on one B-S report which have proven to be in erroe agaion and again, esp on VOA.
BTW I use it under warranty as ILSAC oil are marginal at best and i could give 2 tootsierolls as to what my local Honda dealer thinks. The 5w20 defy is proving to be a GREAT oil - The BEST conventional Ive used in a decade and better than a 2.5 x as expensive 0w20 Japanese synthetic that i just dumped early for making the engine so noisy as to be undriveable. Run it and love it. So there! is my iconoclastic challenge to you silly incorrect non-certified lab report slaves.
I may use their 5w20 next. One guy on here claims the Honda K24's can have cam lobe issues. Maybe some extra ZDP isn't a bad idea in a high mileage engine.
Originally Posted By: FastGame
Originally Posted By: MrRPM
TBN is pretty low too....
I really am kind of dissapointed, If anyone from SOPUS is reading this and sees that blackstones results are off then they need to provide a correct VOA. Otherwise I don't see this oil then anything more then marketing hype.
I agree, looks like Quaker State DEFY is an average (at best) SM oil.
Blackstone VOA numbers are complete garbage (as usual). You have to be moronic to condemn this oil on one B-S report which have proven to be in erroe agaion and again, esp on VOA.
BTW I use it under warranty as ILSAC oil are marginal at best and i could give 2 tootsierolls as to what my local Honda dealer thinks. The 5w20 defy is proving to be a GREAT oil - The BEST conventional Ive used in a decade and better than a 2.5 x as expensive 0w20 Japanese synthetic that i just dumped early for making the engine so noisy as to be undriveable. Run it and love it. So there! is my iconoclastic challenge to you silly incorrect non-certified lab report slaves.
I may use their 5w20 next. One guy on here claims the Honda K24's can have cam lobe issues. Maybe some extra ZDP isn't a bad idea in a high mileage engine.