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#262261 - 11/26/02 12:44 AM Cure for a ticking lifter?
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A friend has an older Dodge Caravan. I need more details, but I think that it's the four with lots of miles on it. It sounds like a lifter is sticking. Also, she's having automatic transmission troubles about which I need to get more info. And, she can't spend more than absolutely necessary.

So, what works for sticky lifters in these engines? What routine should I follow? What additional info do I need? Any simple transmissions fixes for these vans?

Ken

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#262262 - 11/26/02 01:40 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
sprintman Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 11006
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
Auto-RX

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#262263 - 11/26/02 01:46 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 18046
Loc: Iowegia - USA
Ticky - Ticky: Neutra and LC might help as well.

Regarding the Transmisssion: You might change the fluid and add LubeGuard.

[ November 26, 2002, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]

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#262264 - 11/26/02 03:55 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
Actually I have used the 131 neutra in both tranny and engine oil. Also works in fuel system, and p/s system.

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#262265 - 11/26/02 04:20 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
David Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 194
Loc: Roxboro, NC
Schaeffer's 131 neutra in both tranny and engine oil will help in most cases

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#262266 - 11/26/02 04:34 PM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
porterdog Offline


Registered: 10/24/02
Posts: 294
Loc: Detroit (Rock City)
You can try the chemical tranny remedy and it might work, but I'm from Detroit and a lot of my friends work for DaimlerChrysler and they'll be the first to admit that those minivan trannies typically last about 110,000 miles. Best bet in that case is probably to buy a pre-built rebuild from some national supplier with a good warrantee.

Luck,
Robert

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#262267 - 11/26/02 04:48 PM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
dickwells Offline


Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 901
Loc: Northern Illinois
Ditto Robert, plus one of the main failure causes of the electronic trans (if this van is a 4Cyl it doesn't have it) is using dexron in it, even if the dipstick says you can.

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#262268 - 11/26/02 05:52 PM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
I agree with ya fella's. Any time a transmission starts acting up, it's on it's way out, especially in a dodge van. But point here is, that as a last ditch effort, if you were to use say the neutra 131 in it, run it, then drain and put new oil in, it may just by chance take care of it, but anytime you mess with changing the oil after problem arises, you need to be sure to have enough money for the rebuild as it many times will clean the clutches where the friction is only working due to the particles left in the oil and once changed, it will allow no friction if the clutches are shot.

Myself, I wouln't hesitate to try the stuff, or maybe even seafoam from what others say is good. Anyway you look at it, nothing gained nothing lost.

As for the lifter noise, no if's but's about it, the neutra 131 works really well on that. Most times it's dirty,sticking and neutra more times than not has cleared that problem. Another point is that if your using too thick of an oil, it too can cause this kind of problem.

[ November 27, 2002, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: BOBISTHEOILGUY ]

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#262269 - 11/29/02 06:53 PM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
Pops Offline


Registered: 09/11/02
Posts: 82
Loc: Texas
I have heard many of these Dodge Caravans making engine noise while running at stoplites ,parking lots.
They must have a design problem or poor oil change practices [Eek!]

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#262270 - 11/30/02 12:33 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
Intelman34 Offline


Registered: 09/07/02
Posts: 310
Loc: Jefferson, Wisconsin
My dads 1990 Nissan Pathfinder (130k miles) with the 3.0L V6 has a real bad ticking sound on startup and a few minutes afterwards that we think is a lifter.

He currently runs Mobil 1 in it.

I am thinking Neutra 131 might help, but I am not sure.

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#262271 - 11/30/02 01:45 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
That's the first thing I'd do is throw some neutra in it to clean the lifters. No second thoughts for me.

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#262272 - 11/30/02 04:44 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
Bror Jace Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 5064
Loc: Saratoga, NY
My Dad's '94 Mercury Grand Marquis had a bad stuck lifter. You could hear it from more than 50' away.

You know what he did? He changed the oil. That's it. It went away immediately. Despite the noise, I guess it really wasn't that bad after all. [Wink]

I've also talked to an Integra driver who used CD-2 valve detergent. He put this in, drove the car for 500-1,000 miles (I think) and then changed the oil. Ticking lifter went away. Oh, and he used Mobil 1 as well. [Roll Eyes]

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#262273 - 12/01/02 08:33 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
eldawg4100 Offline


Registered: 11/30/02
Posts: 258
Loc: IL
yea! on my old cadillac i had 2 years ago, it had a BAD lifter knock or whatever.... 2 bottles of that yellow bottle cd-2 oil detergent took it away!

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#262274 - 12/10/02 03:35 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
mebanditws6 Offline


Registered: 10/07/02
Posts: 188
Loc: Evansville, In.
2 auto-rx treatments or a good flush will at least help the tick. You may have to go a heavier oil afterward to stop it all together. I know someone who used 10w30 dino oil (not sure which brand) and a quart of Lucas and it stopped a lifter tick in his 305 Z28.

Jason

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#262275 - 12/10/02 03:55 AM Re: Cure for a ticking lifter?
satterfi Offline


Registered: 06/20/02
Posts: 903
Loc: CA
I replaced the lifters in a Ford 302 once. It only took me a few hours.

I suppose that's harder than adding 'Magic in Can' to your oil, but it's hard to argue with the results.

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