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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #2504552 01/24/12 05:45 PM
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Beck/Arnley is now making a SPIII specific fluid. Problem is, it costs more than the SPIII at the dealer. I paid $6.60 a quart last time at the dealer, the B/A stuff is $11.99 at O'Reilly.


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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #2504575 01/24/12 06:13 PM
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Why do you wish to use something other than whats recommended by the manufacturer?

Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: jcwit] #2504597 01/24/12 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: jcwit
Why do you wish to use something other than whats recommended by the manufacturer?

Because there are fluids that have superior oxidation resistance, cold flow, and other properties that are superior to SP-III fluid.

In Canada, many Lancer Evolution and Lancer Ralliart models are having failed ACD pumps because SP-III fluid does not have good cold flow properties for example.


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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #2505193 01/25/12 10:32 AM
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What is the best replacement for Kia/Hyundai/Mitsubishi SP3? ….
I have read where Mercon V is the closest formula. Then I read where ATF +4 is the closest formula. Some people say that Valvoline Maxlife is the stuff to use ….


Here is what I have found with my Hyundai:

An elemental analysis of the SP II ATF is almost identical to an elemental analysis of Mercon V.

I have tried the following in my 2005 with zero problems shifting:

Red Line C+ ATF

Mobil 1 ATF

Mobil ATF 3309

I cannot say that they all feel identical, but they all seem to work. I like the cold weather performance of the synthetics.

I do a drain plug drain and refill every 30k miles, which changes about half the contents of the transmission.

Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: artificialist] #2508936 01/28/12 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Why do you wish to use something other than whats recommended by the manufacturer?

Because there are fluids that have superior oxidation resistance, cold flow, and other properties that are superior to SP-III fluid.

In Canada, many Lancer Evolution and Lancer Ralliart models are having failed ACD pumps because SP-III fluid does not have good cold flow properties for example.


So the manufacturer is putting inferior products in the vehicle. OK, now we know!

Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #2528873 02/07/12 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: 04SE
Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF would work for both your engines.


Whatever you do, don't put ATF in the engine smile

I tried Amsoil Universal in my wifes 2007 Elantra and didn't like it. The shifts were too slippery. My mechanic brother-in-law borrowed the car for a day and said be careful, the tranny is about to fail! Drained out the Amsoil and put SP-III back in, shifted quality was back to normal. That was at about 50K miles. When the car got close to 100K miles, and no more warranty, put in ATF+4 and that also shifts great. ATF+4 worked for me.


BTW - I always do a complete flush - pop off the AT hose and run about 12 qts. through.

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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #2533367 02/11/12 09:37 PM
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I recall reading a thread, someone mentioned "ATF+4" is actually suitable for Kia/Hyundai's "SPIII" spec......and it's kinda ironic, cause the "ATF+4" (which is actually licensed by Chrysler....) states right on the bottle suitable for Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Kia, Hyundai....



Thhhhooouuuggghhh....for those under warranty it does NOT list the "SPIII" spec on the backside wink

But, we all know by now, when it comes to trans/engines....ANY fluid/oil is better than NO fluid/oil :P

Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #2553291 03/01/12 11:04 AM
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+1 for sticking with the SPIII. I have owned 3 Hyundai/Kia vehicles and always used the SPIII. My sister in law owns a 2005 Kia Rio and was recently told she needed a transmission flush. I cautioned her to either take it to the dealer to get it done or buy the SPIII and take it to her independent mechanic to install. 200 miles and a $400 tow bill later, she now has the car in the shop having the transmission flushed out and replaced with proper SPIII fluid. Not sure what fluid her mechanic used but the trans began slipping badly and she had to have the car towed over 100 miles for repairs. (we were on vacation) But she "saved" $50 over having the dealership do the flush.... I looked at alternative fluids and the price difference isn't worth the risk. SPIII is about $7 a quart here.


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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #2553959 03/01/12 11:33 PM
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Eneos now makes a SPIII fluid and my local NAPA has it for $4.99 a quart. From the sound of it, the fluid is supposed to be a direct replacement and not a multi-vehicle type formula. Our local Hyundai/Kia dealers are charging around $7 a quart for the OEM stuff. I really don't know though if the Eneos fluid has any advantages over the factory stuff. I've never found any solid info on who actually makes the OEM fluid.


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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #5189851 08/17/19 06:36 PM
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Hi, I picked up a 2012 Hyundai i10 tiny hatchback for my wife to use as a local beater. It requires a Hyundai specific ATF MX3 spec transmission lube. As Iā€™m rather far from the nearest Hyundai service center, what is the nearest compatible equivalent in a more common standard like Dexron or Mercon?


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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #5190001 08/17/19 11:21 PM
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I'm using MaxLife in my two cars, works great.
I did full exchange (not flush) myself on both first when Forte had 30K miles and Sportage had 20K miles, now doing D/F every 30K miles on both.


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Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #5190424 08/18/19 01:26 PM
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MaxLife ATF in both of my Kia transmissions. I have probably 70K on the fluid in both and notice no change in transmission behavior.

I drain/fill every 25K. It is "lifetime" fluid but I just prefer to keep the fluids clean.

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Originally Posted by KevinP
MaxLife ATF in both of my Kia transmissions. I have probably 70K on the fluid in both and notice no change in transmission behavior.

I drain/fill every 25K. It is "lifetime" fluid but I just prefer to keep the fluids clean.



Do the kias have a drain? Didnt think my wifes okd Optima did



Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: Smith5361] #5191904 08/20/19 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinP
MaxLife ATF in both of my Kia transmissions. I have probably 70K on the fluid in both and notice no change in transmission behavior.

I drain/fill every 25K. It is "lifetime" fluid but I just prefer to keep the fluids clean.



Do the kias have a drain? Didnt think my wifes okd Optima did


Yes




Re: What to replace Kia/Hyundai SPIII with? [Re: 04SE] #5192151 08/20/19 02:11 PM
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I had a 2003 Hyundai Santa Fe. I did 30K miles drain/fills and always used SPIII. It was cheap enough--sometimes I could find it on ebay. I owned the car for 14 years and sold it a year or so ago with 230K miles and the transmission still shifted perfectly. SPIII may not be the greatest ATF ever made, but it worked well for me. I've also heard lots of people used Maxlife with good success. Personally, I was never tempted to deviate from the OEM fluid.


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