0W20 instead of 5W20?
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How about going with 5W30 and drop the 5W20?
Originally Posted By: civic09
Thanks Buster, and Radman, my car specifies 5W20, but after reading up some here, I think I may be ok going to 0W20 Mobil 1. Buster; does mobil have 0W20 in Extended Performance?
thanks for the info and replies guys.
I'm not Buster but, no M1 0w20 EP, at least not yet.................
Thanks Buster, and Radman, my car specifies 5W20, but after reading up some here, I think I may be ok going to 0W20 Mobil 1. Buster; does mobil have 0W20 in Extended Performance?
thanks for the info and replies guys.
I'm not Buster but, no M1 0w20 EP, at least not yet.................
Mobil 1 in the 0W-xx weights is now marketed (at least in the US) as AFE (Advanced Fuel Economy).
Between their 5W-20 and 0W-20, they are rated the same when warm (the "20") and the 0W is not as thick when cold (which is a good thing).
The 0W-xx oils require higher quality base stocks than the 5W-xx oils.
Many see the 0W-xx and think that it is thinner at operating temperatures (when the motor is warmed up).
That is NOT true.
Between their 5W-20 and 0W-20, they are rated the same when warm (the "20") and the 0W is not as thick when cold (which is a good thing).
The 0W-xx oils require higher quality base stocks than the 5W-xx oils.
Many see the 0W-xx and think that it is thinner at operating temperatures (when the motor is warmed up).
That is NOT true.
Originally Posted By: civic09
Thanks Buster, and Radman, my car specifies 5W20, but after reading up some here, I think I may be ok going to 0W20 Mobil 1. Buster; does mobil have 0W20 in Extended Performance?
thanks for the info and replies guys.
If you look at the comparison chart Mobil has up on their website, the 0w20 and 0w30 have better high temperature protection. I don't know why, but it's on the same level as the EP stuff. It was even stated in a Lube mag by an XOM rep that the AFE oils are on the same quality level as the EP line. The EP oil are still better for longer drains though.
Thanks Buster, and Radman, my car specifies 5W20, but after reading up some here, I think I may be ok going to 0W20 Mobil 1. Buster; does mobil have 0W20 in Extended Performance?
thanks for the info and replies guys.
If you look at the comparison chart Mobil has up on their website, the 0w20 and 0w30 have better high temperature protection. I don't know why, but it's on the same level as the EP stuff. It was even stated in a Lube mag by an XOM rep that the AFE oils are on the same quality level as the EP line. The EP oil are still better for longer drains though.
Originally Posted By: Radman
How about going with 5W30 and drop the 5W20?
Why tell him to drop 20wt and go for 30wt?
How about going with 5W30 and drop the 5W20?
Why tell him to drop 20wt and go for 30wt?
Originally Posted By: civic09
Thanks for the reply tig1, and I may get some friday since I am going to change the oil in the Civic fri or sat.
thanks again
adam
p.s. I dont understand what you mean by "our own FISSKER". Sorry if I am dumb or dont know.
FISSKER is a long time member here that has used M1 0-20 in some engines that have called for 30wt oil. He tows a professional ski boat on a circut every summer and the 0-20 takes a betting as he uses it in a van for his business.
Thanks for the reply tig1, and I may get some friday since I am going to change the oil in the Civic fri or sat.
thanks again
adam
p.s. I dont understand what you mean by "our own FISSKER". Sorry if I am dumb or dont know.
FISSKER is a long time member here that has used M1 0-20 in some engines that have called for 30wt oil. He tows a professional ski boat on a circut every summer and the 0-20 takes a betting as he uses it in a van for his business.
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5w20 oil has less film and shear strength than a 5w30, 10w30 or a 0w30 motor oil. This can lead to increased engine wear under today's demanding heat and high-stress engine performance conditions." Honda specs 5w20 oil because is a lighter viscosity than a 5w30 oil and therefore has less internal engine frictional losses, or less drag on the crankshaft, pistons and valve-train. This decrease in frictional power loss promotes increased fuel economy. This increased fuel economy is virtually undetectable to the average consumer without the use of specialized engine monitoring and testing equipment when compared to a 5w30, 10w30 or a 0w30 viscosity motor oil."
5w20 oil has less film and shear strength than a 5w30, 10w30 or a 0w30 motor oil. This can lead to increased engine wear under today's demanding heat and high-stress engine performance conditions." Honda specs 5w20 oil because is a lighter viscosity than a 5w30 oil and therefore has less internal engine frictional losses, or less drag on the crankshaft, pistons and valve-train. This decrease in frictional power loss promotes increased fuel economy. This increased fuel economy is virtually undetectable to the average consumer without the use of specialized engine monitoring and testing equipment when compared to a 5w30, 10w30 or a 0w30 viscosity motor oil."
Originally Posted By: buster
Yes. Their 0w20 is a better oil than the regular M1 5w20.
In what ways is the 0w20 better?
Higher VII? Better fuel economy?
Yes. Their 0w20 is a better oil than the regular M1 5w20.
In what ways is the 0w20 better?
Higher VII? Better fuel economy?
My Toyota dealer uses it in my two vehicles and I run them at 10k mile or one year intervals. This is quite ordinary and nothing to be concerned about.
Originally Posted By: semaj281
Originally Posted By: buster
Yes. Their 0w20 is a better oil than the regular M1 5w20.
In what ways is the 0w20 better?
Higher VII? Better fuel economy?
Better fuel economy.
Originally Posted By: buster
Yes. Their 0w20 is a better oil than the regular M1 5w20.
In what ways is the 0w20 better?
Higher VII? Better fuel economy?
Better fuel economy.
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Im running 0w20 on my 2010 civic 1.8L that requires 5w20.. Planning on running 0w20 all year round since it flows better on cold start and from what ive read here.. engine wear usually occurs at cold start so having an oil that flows better on cold start would be better i think...
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